Never understood why PMDG discontinued their MD-11 after FSX…

13 minutes ago, thepilot said:

Never understood why PMDG discontinued their MD-11 after FSX…

I can't remember if this was ever confirmed but the main dev behind the MD-11 left PMDG and I believe he is now the owner of FSLabs.

Also it was mentioned by a twitch streamer that the majority of the dev team at TFDI that did the 717 are no longer there so it is most likely a completely different team apart from a few. 

Edited December 1, 20223 yr by Zangoose

1 hour ago, Gilandred said:

I doubt it, not after asking to pay $80.  My understanding is the beta release won’t be until next summer so I didn’t see much value in a prebuy.  My guess is they will hold back the beta until they are reasonably confident it will “show” well once released to the public.

Guess I read the thread too fast, I was thinking people who opted for the beta would start to get it now, at least for P3D. Not the best deal

To each their own, but I'll happily pass. I've saved quite a lot of bucks by reading reviews and user experiences first that made it clear I wasn't interested in the addon when before release I was a lot. $80 for something that's a year away is a steep ask. I have absolutely no way of knowing if it's even going to be good or if I'm going to be disappointed, in which case waiting for release will save me 80 bucks. It's like purchasing a couch you've never seen with your own eyes and when you sit down on it the first time it breaks down, but the manufacturer already has your money.

People also seem to be forgetting that beta testing in software usually is far from getting to play early but probably ends up with a lot of bugs and CTDs. Restricting the MD-11ER to pre-purchasers only also is kind of lame as it sort of pressures those that really want it into pre-purchasing when otherwise they might prefer waiting.

I remember when people pre-purchased Battlefield 2042 being sure it was gonna be good, only for it to turn out to be a really bad game and boy, was I happy I saved myself the money. I hope this pre-purchase beta program-thingy doesn't become the norm in flight simming too because there are plenty of examples when it ended up with the game never really being finished/fixed.

That said, $80 is still more than what you pay for the Fenix A320 or the PMDG 737 which arguably the MD-11 won't quite match, which makes pre-purchasing this even more of a non-starter for me, personally.

Edited December 1, 20223 yr by Nixoq

For the love for Mighty MD-11, i decided to pay for it in advance , if it even helps TFDI somehow to produce this addon.

I trust them and i think they will take this project to the goal and beyond.

Edited December 1, 20223 yr by MPL

1 hour ago, Zangoose said:

I can't remember if this was ever confirmed but the main dev behind the MD-11 left PMDG and I believe he is now the owner of FSLabs.

Yes you are correct. You can see it in the credits section if you have it installed. 

 

Didn't realize it were that many hardcore MD-11 lovers still around.👍

2 hours ago, thepilot said:

Never understood why PMDG discontinued their MD-11 after FSX…

Robby randazzle said on many occasions that they lost money on it, or didn’t make enough to justify.

TFDI Data Leak

So it appears the site had a bit of an issue and some data may have leaked. They posted a PDF with a post-mortem on their Discord about this but the summary is below: 

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During the pre-sale release of the TFDi Design MD-11 Collector’s Edition, the sheer volume of customers caused cached pages to be served, including customer login credentials. The website also ran slowly and caused some loading errors for customers. The extent of the data breach was Names, Email Addresses, Physical Addresses, Telephone Numbers and the potential of the last 4 digits of a credit card. This lasted for no more than 8 minutes.

You can see the full PDF at: https://docdro.id/up4Ped7

Edited December 1, 20223 yr by Zangoose

15 minutes ago, blueshark747 said:

Didn't realize it were that many hardcore MD-11 lovers still around.👍

It's good to see some love for the classics—gives some variety to accommodate various tastes.

We're still in the early phases of payware airliner releases for MSFS. Other than the Aerosoft CRJ and Twin Otter, Fenix A320, Just Flight BAe 146, PMDG 737, (and perhaps the updated v2 BBS BN-2 Islander and DC-Designs Concorde), there's nothing else worthy of buying on the market (YMMV). That's a lot of pent-up demand for airliners that remains untapped and partly explains why there's appears to be a lot of early interest.
1,000 pre-sales is relatively easy on a platform of two million flight simmers and in this period of limited payware airliners. Can they go 5x or 10x that number with the MD-11 when the ATR 42/72, 757, 777, Fokkers, Avro RJ are likely to be out by the time it is ready?

Personal information leaked. What a pre-order bonus from TFDi

3 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

Personal information leaked. What a pre-order bonus from TFDi

huh ?

Just now, Maxis said:

huh ?

Read my post a few posts up - It explains all. 

20 minutes ago, Zangoose said:

So it appears the site had a bit of an issue and some data may have leaked. They posted a PDF with a post-mortem on their Discord about this but the summary is below: 

 

Ouch!  Data breaches, even brief ones, can be disastrous and are frequently caused by other companies offering web services to, in this case TDFi .  Good job by Collin to respond so quickly and crush it before it got any worse.  Legal is gonna have some cleanup to do, and let's just hope none of the customers who were inadvertently exposed to other customer's data don't have a nefarious bone in their body, and their systems were void of sniffers/keyloggers or any other background processes that evil people use to take other people's data.

Also good on Collin/TFDi for the quick transparency with a difficult subject.  Sadly in the past, we've been exposed to other flightsim devs that handled sensitive subjects...rather poorly. 🤔