5 minutes ago, Gilandred said:

The good news here is that we’ll have 1000 people to tell us if it’s worth paying $70-85 upon release.

that and without question we will have a bunch of people who did not do the prebuy who later complain they don't get access to the ER

35 minutes ago, micstatic said:

that and without question we will have a bunch of people who did not do the prebuy who later complain they don't get access to the ER

Of course there will be, and with good reason, that’s a pretty lousy marketing ploy.  On the other hand, the ER is just internally different, with an extra fuel tank and different perf numbers.  I’m sure a modder will have one in about 10 minutes after release.

totally agree.  I could care less about the "variant".  I know I'm going to buy the MD-11 at some point and have enjoyed how tfdi has engaged with the community.  So I was ok giving my order to them in advance.  

Actually I WAS going to pre order until I saw the exclusive variant ploy, and the fact that it is capped.  don’t like rewarding that sort of thing. Ymmv

4 minutes ago, ShawnG said:

Actually I WAS going to pre order until I saw the exclusive variant ploy, and the fact that it is capped

Yes, the exclusive variant is a little over the top and left me with a bad taste. Limiting the number, I kind of understand as they have to support these people during the beta.

For me it is not a plane I am that interested in - I know, hard to believe someone who is not excited for an MD-11 - so I will pass as it is priced fairly high.

So, no NDA? 

So how many people do we think have pre-ordered?

39 minutes ago, bendead said:

So, no NDA? 

I doubt it, not after asking to pay $80.  My understanding is the beta release won’t be until next summer so I didn’t see much value in a prebuy.  My guess is they will hold back the beta until they are reasonably confident it will “show” well once released to the public.

Edited December 1, 20223 yr by Gilandred

37 minutes ago, Zangoose said:

So how many people do we think have pre-ordered?

Last I saw on Discord they were close to 500 based off of users posting their serial# and the Pre-order is still open. 

Edited December 1, 20223 yr by Wise87

I was never impressed with their product (717-owned) for P3d. Seemed unfinished and lacking promised features. This “pre-buy” for a not even alpha software strikes me as desperation, not good marketing. YMMV.  I’ll pass.

-B

26 minutes ago, Wise87 said:

Last I saw on Discord they were close to 500 based off of users posting their serial# and the Pre-order is still open. 

I was 676, that was about an hour ago

6 hours ago, CaptainNick said:

Per Collin on the TFDI discord earlier:

 

I met the tfdi team in 2016 at a flight sim conference in Rhode Is. I was impressed by the team members sufficiently that I bought the 717 at the conference. Like many releases it was a WIP. I figured that when I bought. It has since evolved into a really nice aircraft that i keep coming back to from time to time. I expect the same with the MD11. I'll have no complaints as I'm sure it will evolve into a superb creation. I believe in supporting developers like these. To each his own.

If they were asking for money and giving actual tangible software ( albeit alpha) in return immediately  Then meh .. ok.. But bruh ... give up 80 dollars with nothing for months and on top of that locking out those who don't participate in this shenanigans from a variant ?

You run a business .. bring your books in to your banker or investors and get a loan. I don't see how this excites and motivates customers.

For the people who have done the pre sale .. more power to you. No grudges held. (It is your money to spend as you the customer sees fit) I just do not agree with this variant of crowdfunding investment model.

 

Edited December 1, 20223 yr by Maxis

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With all of that said, we're not a cash-grab company.

Yeah sure.

Thanks, but no thanks. Maybe later, when there is a product.

As a big MD-11 fan I went ahead and jumped in.  Considering how complex modeling is for MSFS I have no doubt that developers are spending a lot of resources on development and have limited capital to fall back on until release.  Its a risk but considering how small many of these developers are we will likely see more of this sort of thing in the future.  I will be using this sort of model as a trial and will decide on a later date depending on how TFDi delivers if I will ever do this sort of thing again!

They must be getting a lot of support.  The TFDi web page was a bit flaky on sign up.  I was not sure it was actually working but my CC got charged and I got sign up information and invoicing from TFDi.  I also had to try a few times to verify my email but it finely worked after a few tries.