December 9, 20223 yr Curious which ATC program you guys are using. If you use more than one, select the one you use the most often. Edited December 9, 20223 yr by RobJC 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
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December 9, 20223 yr In all my years in FS9, FSX, P3D and MSFS I've found that (aside from flying online) there is nothing superior to default ATC, which in itself never really was very good, though (which is of course also a statement about the third party products available...). In P3D at least there are several tools available that improve the default experience quite a bit. Sadly nothing of the sort is available for MSFS, and it shows. In my opinion ATC and AI handling are the weakest, most unrealistic parts of the simulator and will hopefully be improved upon some day. To those tuning in to real ATC for "aural immersion", is there any tool that facilitates this?
December 9, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, Alvega said: Check this: Darn, missed that. Thanks! 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
December 9, 20223 yr Default. Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
December 9, 20223 yr I used default until I broke down and purchased Pilot2ATC. It's a really nice program and does what it says. Far better than the default for sure.
December 10, 20223 yr Author I am currently using the default ATC but I have been pondering this for a while now and am leaning towards PRO-ATC/SR. I wish they had a demo/trial. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
December 10, 20223 yr None. I haven't used any ATC except VATSIM. Some robotic voice giving you directions is a huge immersion killer.
December 10, 20223 yr well at least you get atc coverage unlike vatsim unless you fly at the same time as the controllers Edited December 10, 20223 yr by pete_auau I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
December 10, 20223 yr PF3, since my latest FS9 days. Due to licensing requirements, I'm using default in my laptop. Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
December 10, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, thepilot said: In all my years in FS9, FSX, P3D and MSFS I've found that (aside from flying online) there is nothing superior to default ATC, which in itself never really was very good, though (which is of course also a statement about the third party products available...). In P3D at least there are several tools available that improve the default experience quite a bit. Sadly nothing of the sort is available for MSFS, and it shows. In my opinion ATC and AI handling are the weakest, most unrealistic parts of the simulator and will hopefully be improved upon some day. To those tuning in to real ATC for "aural immersion", is there any tool that facilitates this? Default ATC is is total garbage, no matter what the sim.
December 10, 20223 yr 47 minutes ago, pete_auau said: well at least you get atc coverage unlike vatsim unless you fly at the same time as the controllers Vatsim is great, if you don't mind talking to Unicomm half the time.
December 10, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, pete_auau said: well at least you get atc coverage unlike vatsim unless you fly at the same time as the controllers Or if the controller decides he has something better to do and leaves you hanging.
December 10, 20223 yr 54 minutes ago, mwilk said: Or if the controller decides he has something better to do and leaves you hanging. Well unlike the default atc they will not direct you into a Mountain.
December 10, 20223 yr At the very least, an ATC addon needs to 1) integrate seamlessly into the ingame toolbar, 2) provide realistic sounding voices with regional variations. 3) An elegant modern UI All the mentioned addons deliver on neither of these three requirements. So, you're basically stuck with the default ATC. Edited December 10, 20223 yr by Ricardo41
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