Did I read somewhere that the last update introduced a limit on the number of BGL files in the Community Folder?

The reason I ask is that I belive that FSLTL and Global Shipping seem to have quite a lot of them and MSFS crashes on the flight loading screen when I use them both together along with all my other add-ons.

If I remove either, then the sim runs perfectly fine and very smoothly.

23 minutes ago, cianpars said:

Did I read somewhere that the last update introduced a limit on the number of BGL files in the Community Folder?

The reason I ask is that I belive that FSLTL and Global Shipping seem to have quite a lot of them and MSFS crashes on the flight loading screen when I use them both together along with all my other add-ons.

If I remove either, then the sim runs perfectly fine and very smoothly.

Yes.  This is true.  Other people have had the same issue and confirmed that reducing BGL load fixes it.
Not sure when it happened, why they did it, or what the limits are.  Hopefully someone can enlighten us. 

PS.  I believe someone at Global Shipping advised on how to split the BGL's (just to the area you are flying in) to try to alleviate this. 
@Cpt_Piett knows how to do it I believe.  Hopefully Asobo can put the original limit back or fix this in some way.

Edited December 16, 20223 yr by bobcat999

It can also be that there are some cross-incompatibilties between two or more add-ons. I have quite a lot add-ons including Globals Shipping, AIG and FSLTL but don't have any CTD issues.

The only issue I am aware is the number of add-ons in the community folder (linked or in real). If you have too many of them (I guess more than 1000), you cannot access the content manager.

2 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

PS.  I believe someone at Global Shipping advised on how to split the BGL's (just to the area you are flying in) to try to alleviate this. 
@Cpt_Piett knows how to do it I believe.  Hopefully Asobo can put the original limit back or fix this in some way.

@Alvega and myself figured out how to split the GAIST package into regions with the help of Henrik Nielsen. That resolved the CTD upon flight loading due to the max object count being exceeded. The “recipe” should be in the GAIST thread (don’t have the link availability, sorry). 

I personally do not believe there is a hard coded limit,   imo it comes down to what your machine can handle. 

I have the full version of GAIST,  GAIST Great Lakes,  Seafront's Vessel's,    WeLoveVFR region 1 and 2,   the powerlines and solar farms mod,   the project lifts mod,  the Marina's mod,  world navaids,  FSTL,  AIG,   and a ton of other stuff installed.

I have absolutely no problems,  never stutter,  never crash.

The power lines mod in particularly is extremely intensive,  with all of the wires residing in memory.

I'm using a fast Seagate FireCuda m.2 drive though,  and 32gb of fast dram.

FSLTL doesn't use or include any BGL's.

16 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

FSLTL doesn't use or include any BGL's.

Interesting!  In that case, yours and Waldo's comments need to be taken into account, as there could be something else at play.  Strange how splitting the Global Shipping BGL's works in that particular case though.

Edited December 17, 20223 yr by bobcat999

I don't think it's as much BGL as it is sim objects. The number of sim objects (not bgl files) is what can cause problems.

Edited December 17, 20223 yr by Phantoms

19 hours ago, Phantoms said:

I don't think it's as much BGL as it is sim objects. The number of sim objects (not bgl files) is what can cause problems.

Yeah I think that’s the issue. And it was introduced with SU11.

37 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Yeah I think that’s the issue. And it was introduced with SU11.

SU10 actually. 

On 12/16/2022 at 5:46 PM, Waldo Pepper said:

I have the full version of GAIST,  GAIST Great Lakes,  Seafront's Vessel's,    WeLoveVFR region 1 and 2,   the powerlines and solar farms mod,   the project lifts mod,  the Marina's mod,  world navaids,  FSTL,  AIG,   and a ton of other stuff installed.

Got all those as well. Probably wouldn’t have any issues with object limit if I didn’t have all these. Although it used to be fine. Before SU10 I guess. 

Hello guys,

I was looking for a topic regarding this freezing issue, other than on the official MSFS forums and found this one.

I did A LOT of testing for GAIST and here are my results:

 

SUMMARY

- The issue got introduced in SU8 and wasn't present in SU8 Beta.

- Random freeze during flight loading happens when there is more than 706 .bgl files in the Community folder.

- This is not a size issue.

- This is not a corrupted/error json/object issue.

 

RESULTS

Total of BGL files in Community folder tests:
851 BGL files: freeze on the 1st try
806 BGL files: freeze on the 17th try
805 BGL files: freeze on the 2nd try
756 BGL files: freeze on the 14th try
755 BGL files: freeze on the 1st try
754 BGL files: freeze on the 3rd try
726 BGL files: freeze on the 16th try
716 BGL files: freeze on the 20th try
711 BGL files: freeze on the 12th try
710 BGL files: freeze on the 9th try
709 BGL files: freeze on the 8th try
708 BGL files: freeze on the 6th try
707 BGL files: freeze on the 22nd try
706 BGL files: 160/160 tries OK
656 BGL files: 20/20 tries OK

 

Results speak for themselves. If I remove a random .bgl when I have 707 of them, I can start 160 flights in a row with no freeze. If I add back the .bgl, the game goes back to freezing during flight loading.

I’m pretty sure it affects everybody, but this is SO random, that you can start 21 flights in a row with no issues, and freeze on the 22nd one.

 

If you want to give a try to check if my results are correct, please feel free to do it and report back.

 

Thanks!

Wow thank you for taking the time to do that much testing!

It may also be dependent on some other factors.

Because I have, at this time, 4,899 BGL files in my community folder (including GAIST). And MSFS always loads just fine.

...jim

 

19 hours ago, Flobud said:

Thanks!

No, thank you! That's an incredible amount of testing you did. I hope you're able to submit your findings to Asobo...and they pay you for it LOL.