5 minutes ago, goates said:

The incident I referred to in my post about a car cutting me off on the highway was driven by a person and wasn't much different than that in the videos shared above. It would have very likely caused an accident just as bad as those in the videos as the traffic on the highway that day was almost bumper to bumper if it wasn't for my car detecting an impending collision and hitting the brakes much faster than I could have.

 

Yep, City Safe in my old Mazda got me out of trouble a couple of times. It wasn't perfect, and would get confused by rising barriers, I knew I didn't have to slow much and could pass underneath, but it would panic and brake. 😆 It was just a case of accepting that it would panic in certain circumstances and slowing down sooner to keep it calm. 

No humans... what fun...

 

 

2 hours ago, Mike A said:

https://theintercept.com/2023/01/10/tesla-crash-footage-autopilot/

I don't know about that accident. On the one hand, yes, the Tesla shouldn't have slowed and then stopped. Obvious malfunction.

On the other hand, the people who rear-ended the vehicle seemed to be following too close and driving too fast.

That's going to probably be listed as an at-fault accident for the car that rear ended the Tesla.....

No worries... no humans in 10 or less years.

40 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

the people who rear-ended the vehicle seemed to be following too close and driving too fast.

They had all kinds of space in front of them until the Tesla cut in and braked to a full stop. They didn't have enough time to react. The ones behind them were following too close. Was that what you meant?

Edited January 11, 20233 yr by dmwalker

14 minutes ago, dmwalker said:

They had all kinds of space in front of them until the Tesla cut in and braked to a full stop. They didn't have enough time to react. The ones behind them were following too close. Was that what you meant?

It's probably arguable whether the person who initially hit the Tesla had enough time. But it seems pretty clear that a lot of the other people that wound up in that pileup were going too fast and driving too close. Which is actually pretty typical of human drivers......

Definitely not.  Eventually the technology will improve to the point where autonomous vehicles are safe, but we're not there yet IMO.

Although I embrace technology and believe that it has greatly enhanced our lives, I think some of this automation has gone too far.  Autonomous vehicles, self-checkouts at stores, robotic kiosks at fast food restaurants, etc. are going to be job-killers.  As more and more jobs are "outsourced" to robots, where will everyone work in order to make a living?  Not everyone is capable of being the engineer or technician maintaining and repairing the advanced machinery, plus there won't be enough of those jobs to replace the existing ones, so what will everyone else do?

Dystopian future here we come.

Dave

I don't know why, but drive assists seems are going the same old wrong road that automation on airliner and GA have gone though (although GA not yet done I guess...)

People just don't really learn from history....

No WNAing way.........

3 hours ago, dave2013 said:

self-checkouts at stores

I prefer a checkout with a human being I can talk to and chit-chat while he-she is checking out my load.  I know most of the checkers at my supermarket by name.

Noel

All joking a side. I've seen a video where dogs where though to fly a plane. I know from flying a plane that its harder than driving a car. I'm sure that a dog could be trained to drive a car and well with modified controls to ergonomically suite a dog and I kid you not I'd get in the car with the dog driving before I'd get in the car with AI driving  for one reason alone. I know for certain a dog has sense of self preservation as strong as my own. If he's my dog his sense of preserving me is probably stronger than his sense of preserving himself!

Edited January 12, 20233 yr by FBW737

18 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

It seems like the future is trying to aim us towards driverless vehicles. Trucks, cars, and now cabs point towards the possibility of an automated vehicle future. And of course planes have had autopilots forever, so.....

How comfortable are you with it?

 

Would you ride in a pilotless electric aircraft?

2 hours ago, SierraHotel said:

Would you ride in a pilotless electric aircraft?

I'd probably be willing to give it a shot.

13 hours ago, dave2013 said:

plus there won't be enough of those jobs to replace the existing ones, so what will everyone else do?

Don’t worry, everyone else will become a social media manager…

I learned to drive 72 years ago in driver's ed in high school.  In the ensuing 72 years I've had one major accident.  Clearly my fault.  I was driving too fast in fog and broadsided a semi that was crossing the highway.  Other than  nothing.  I drive very defensively and am aware of what's going around me.

Luckily in that accident I had a seat belt on.  That was long before seat belts were mandatory.   It was one I installed myself probably because I had just started flying then and was aware of them and thought they would be a good idea in my car.

But in the past few years my driving skills have started to deteriorate.  I am not as alert as I used to be.  But I have a car with all the sensors.  The only time I hear the beeps is when I creep up to post in the handicapped parking slot or when someone walks behind me in the parking lot.

I would not drive cross country anymore.  The 5 miles to WalMart or the 3 miles to Albertsons is my limit.  I bought my car brand new over three years ago and only have 2700 miles on it as of yesterday.

While I appreciate the bells and whistles on today's automobiles I still wouldn't trust a driverless car.

And I have one question.  How do driverless cars react to low visibility?  In fog for instance.  How do they know how much to slow down?  Does their radar permit them to drive faster in low visibility

situations?

Noel