3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I have a question for the PMDG crowd. I have read that you can't import a simbrief fllightplan into the PMDG 737, like I can do with all my other aircraft I fly in MSFS2020. Does that mean you have to import flightplans manually into the MCDU, for each flight?

there is no one click import, you need to download the fp first into a specific work folder and then load the route through your MCDU

EDIT Matt was faster, even including the vid

Edited February 8, 20233 yr by DAD
too late

Just now, DAD said:

there is no one click import, you need to download the fp first into a specific work folder and then load the route through your MCDU

Bummer....

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I have a question for the PMDG crowd. I have read that you can't import a simbrief fllightplan into the PMDG 737, like I can do with all my other aircraft I fly in MSFS2020. Does that mean you have to import flightplans manually into the MCDU, for each flight?

You can download your flight plan onto the MSFS folder with the Simbrief downloader, and then on the RTE page it will import the complete plan when you enter the route name - no different from what you do in the INIT page on the Fenix.

Just now, Bobsk8 said:

Bummer....

well, bummer is harsh. it works and that much better than compared to my old FSX version I used many years ago. but yet it is not as comfortable for a lazy pilot like me who got used to the ease of importing the simbrief through the MCDU directly or well the EFB

2 minutes ago, GentleGroove said:

You can download your flight plan onto the MSFS folder with the Simbrief downloader, and then on the RTE page it will import the complete plan when you enter the route name - no different from what you do in the INIT page on the Fenix.

Oh OK, I was thinking that the entire FP with all waypoints had to be programmed in manually. 

3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Bummer....

??

Simbrief has the capability to auto-download to the relevant PMDG folders so it is in the CDU with zero clicks after you generate the FP...   All of my airliners are set up this way.

No bummer.  

 

56 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

The difference is that you can now buy the variant you want. Before if you wanted the 600, 800 or 900, you needed the 700 base. They are now standalone so it works out better value unless you decide to get more than 2 variants (most people only want the 700 and/or 800 I'd venture). For cash strapped simmers, $35 for the -600 is a great way to get in to a top "study level" airliner without breaking the bank.

Makes perfect sense to me, simple supply and demand; the 600 and 900 are rarer in reality so there isn't as much demand for it from simmers. Technically speaking they're all equally competent in the sim, so if you're not bothered how much plane is behind your flight deck or what livery it's wearing, get the 600 and grab yourself a bargain.

The previous PMDG sales model was to make a base product (usually a less popular variant, such as the 777-200LR) and make the most popular an expansion (777-300ER) as this would maximise sales revenue (basically all customers had to buy the less popular variant that many of them probably had little interest in). However, this base and expansion approach was not compatible with the MFS in-game marketplace so now all products are standalone and priced individually.

Not true. In P3d you could just have the 800/900 bundle separately to the 600/700 bundle. 

7 minutes ago, psolk said:

Simbrief has the capability to auto-download to the relevant PMDG folders so it is in the CDU with zero clicks after you generate the FP...   All of my airliners are set up this way.

The other nice thing is if you don't clean out the folder, you don't need to regenerate the flight if you want to run it again.

There are plenty of things an EFB can give I like, but even on the FBW it will pull the Simbrief info for reference, but I need to also pull it from the MCDU.

It might help to clarify that SimBrief makes available an autodownloader app

https://www.simbrief.com/home/index.php?page=fms-downloader

If one installs this app, points the app to the relevant folders in the pmdg file structure (see pages 120-122 of the Introduction document found in the Documentation folder of the PMDG installation), and sets the app to autostart with the OS (not necessary, but convenient), without even pressing a button after a new OFP is generated by SimBrief. This includes both the OFP and the weather forecast.

I'm not sure how much easier the process can be, but others feel differently. I'm about as lazy as anyone else, and it certainly meets my needs.

18 hours ago, alepro21 said:

Fully agreed. Good value of you only ever want one model, bad value for those of us who’d like to fly across the whole NG family. Personally, I don’t feel my previous business with PMDG is valued. 

I agree.

Their lack of any "cross-discount" is hard to swallow, when you've bought every product they've ever released in the past, including many of the same aircraft but for further platforms.  I've bought a "737NG" 5 times now from PMDG. 😄   Although, this is quite arbitrary as there is nothing in common between the 737NG for FS2004 and the current MSFS fleet.  

Still your point is spot on.   It's the people who spend less with them - on just one variant - that get better value than the people who support them by buying multiple variants.

In FSX, I spent £49 for the base pack with 2 variants, then £29 for the extension pack for the other 2.

FSX = all variants for £80

MSFS = all variants for £179

....even with inflation, that's a very different pricing model.

I haven’t counted but I think importing a Simbrief flight plan into the 737 is 3 to 4 clicks….so probably not out of line with the real thing and certainly not a reason for concern.  

12 minutes ago, regis9 said:

I haven’t counted but I think importing a Simbrief flight plan into the 737 is 3 to 4 clicks….so probably not out of line with the real thing and certainly not a reason for concern.  

1 click, if you have Simbrief exporter set correctly. Also, GSX is capable to read the most recent Simbrief report. 

Well, I had the credit which worked out nicely. I bought the 700 because I managed flight standards for the C40C at Andrews, though it has the gear and wings of the 800. I bought the 800 because the mainstream use. I won't buy the 900 because I never liked the aircraft because of it's length. If you like the aircraft and the work that PMDG does, just buy the variant you want and get on with it🤣

5 hours ago, Noel said:

The FBW A320NX seems much more detailed and complex

That's a bizarre statement to be honest.

4 hours ago, pommy80 said:

Not true. In P3d you could just have the 800/900 bundle separately to the 600/700 bundle. 

Yes, but in order to get the 600/700 you would have to buy the base package and even then, you'd end up paying for the 600 which was probably not the one the vast majority of people were after when they bought the expansion. A bundle discount would be appropriate, but other than that the new pricing model is way more consumer friendly.

7 hours ago, B777ER said:

Stockholm syndrome.

Stockholm simdrome