1 minute ago, sonny147 said:

i dont even know where it is , but the sim seems more stable in weather in general even if you cant find the setting lol

I am flying now in the PMDG 737-8, and everything is smooth as silk. Not going to adjust anything.

5 minutes ago, sonny147 said:

i dont even know where it is , but the sim seems more stable in weather in general even if you cant find the setting lol

Assistance under Piloting. Last item on the list.

 

I don't get why they set the default to "Low". Considering how many people here don't even know where to look for the option, I predict many simmers are just going to assume that turbulences are fixed now, while they are now basically flying on the old "on-rails" setting. 😉

Edited March 21, 20233 yr by Farlis

8 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Realistic of course. Only reduce if you personally think it is too strong.

Question (as I won't be able to try for a week): can you adjust the intensity of turbulence in live weather, as in, the weather otherwise remains live and changing?  Or is this like adjusting other weather parameters, where you have to leave livev weather to adjust it?

Hopefully it can be tweaked on the fly, because there are times the turbulence feels realistic, and times it is ridiculous.

Just now, Stearmandriver said:

Question (as I won't be able to try for a week): can you adjust the intensity of turbulence in live weather, as in, the weather otherwise remains live and changing? 

Yes.

Turbulence is the last adjustment in assistance Piloting. Low, medium, and Realistic. Mine was set on Low, I just moved it to Realistic. 

Realistic is good for me now in SU12, as it has been toned down anyway from SU11. 

Sometimes I was getting a roll rate of 45 degrees per second just from turbulence in light aircraft with SU11 - ridiculous for moderate weather.

SU12 realistic setting now moves the plane around nicely without trying to flip me over.  The effect over hills / mountains has been toned down a bit also.

4 hours ago, pmb said:

Non unexpected, but pretty horrible, IMO. The changelog may be long and has a number of improvements - coupled with a BIG regression for us poor VR users, not even being mentioned when it will be amended .

Re: these non-trivial VR regressions, like before they might be addressed in interim updates rather than waiting for the next SU, hopefully at least, per below:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/polls-sim-update-12-1-31-22-0-discussion/582390/133

Jummivana
Senior Community Manager [Z-8]

"I see a few posts here citing a few of the bugs that were reported in the Beta that did not make it into the fix for Sim Update 12. Some, of course, more glaring than others. We will be sure to report this feedback to the team. While some of these bugs did not make the final build due to time, many of them are being actively investigated and worked on and will be slated for a release as soon as they are able. While it may have not made it into today’s build, giving them the lead time of even a few weeks has helped the team begin fixing them rather than finding out today. So your work in the Beta has not gone unnoticed!

Thank you for everyone who did participate in the Beta. You helped us identify many issues 8 that the team has been working through."
 

Edited March 21, 20233 yr by lwt1971

I cant really comment as iam only flat panel , but from what ive read on on here over the last few months you VR boys seem to be getting a bit of a bum deal ??

4 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Re: these non-trivial VR regressions, like before they might be addressed in interim updates rather than waiting for the next SU, hopefully at least, per below:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/polls-sim-update-12-1-31-22-0-discussion/582390/133

Jummivana
Senior Community Manager [Z-8]

"I see a few posts here citing a few of the bugs that were reported in the Beta that did not make it into the fix for Sim Update 12. Some, of course, more glaring than others. We will be sure to report this feedback to the team. While some of these bugs did not make the final build due to time, many of them are being actively investigated and worked on and will be slated for a release as soon as they are able. While it may have not made it into today’s build, giving them the lead time of even a few weeks has helped the team begin fixing them rather than finding out today. So your work in the Beta has not gone unnoticed!

Thank you for everyone who did participate in the Beta. You helped us identify many issues 8 that the team has been working through."
 

Well they've fixed one graphical VR bug in SU12 that was reported once SU5 was released (nearly two years ago), it took them 5-6 weeks to half-fix the SU7 fiasco with VR toolbar bugs (some of which still exist today) so I don't hold much hope of them fixing this new toolbar issue any time soon.
This bug could well of been fixed during Beta, VR app devs are already adjusting and managing to workaround this issue already (thankfully), the above from Jayne is merely keeping the peace that some of us can read straight through 😄

Yes SU12 is chock full of goodies & other important bug fixes which is great and I'm thankful for those, but yet again they let themselves down especially with another kick in the balls to VR users. They've had a bad reputation for poor Quality Control since day one....it continues today.

16 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

Question (as I won't be able to try for a week): can you adjust the intensity of turbulence in live weather, as in, the weather otherwise remains live and changing?  Or is this like adjusting other weather parameters, where you have to leave livev weather to adjust it?

Hopefully it can be tweaked on the fly, because there are times the turbulence feels realistic, and times it is ridiculous.

On the Fly 

 

Microsoft:

"Please note the day and time for the March Developer Livestream has been moved. The new time is:

Wednesday, March 22nd at 9:30am PT (  Tomorrow 9:30 AM )

As always, you can watch the panel of Jorg, Seb, Martial, Jayne, and special guests on our official Twitch channel."

 

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Fielder (me): I am hoping the big 3 will be wearing VR helmets during the Q&A session. That way we can be sure that Asobo has not given up on VR !

6 minutes ago, Maxis said:

On the Fly 

Where is the setting for on the fly? as I have to go back into the Menus, I can't see it when in the plane 🤔 thanks

Just now, MarcG said:

Where is the setting for on the fly? as I have to go back into the Menus, I can't see it when in the plane 🤔 thanks

You will have to change it in the menu. However you can go right back to flying in the live wx environment. after exiting the menus. Sorry if my expression got confused for "instantly"

SIMVARS

Density Altitude simvar added

Is this change at all significant?

What's the scoop with FSLTL. Do I use the SU11 injector, or do I download the experimental one for SU12?