Been watching 737NG Driver's videos and he's also very positive about this ATRs, and showing the pluses and how nice it can be.

737NG Driver: ATR 72 & 42 Tutorial 3: Final Cockpit Preparation and HOTEL MODE | Real Airline Pilot - YouTube

Easyjetsimpilot likes it too!

Easyjetsimpilot: ATR 72 & 42 - Full Flight Tutorial & Simbrief Profile | Cold & Dark to Landing in MSFS 2020 - YouTube

Even the ASOBO tutorials are well done and rather comprehensive: ATR 72-600 Discovery Series Episode 1: Series Introduction - YouTube

I'm a bit puzzled by some of the negative videos. Looks like some youtubers with even less than minimum knowledge about how to operate this type started firing at the release... But why? Agenda? 

Well... time will tell, but from the watching, I am even tempted to try it too 🙂

Long goes the time I last used an ATR in flightsim ....

Edited April 27, 20233 yr by jcomm

2 hours ago, jcomm said:

I am even tempted to try it too 🙂

Wondering how you’ll do that, given that you wrote this 2 days ago in the P2D forum:

”I've been in MFS, and I even erased my MS account associated with it's acquisition... I'm eagerly waiting for Pd3 v6 and also further developments of specific platforms like Condorsoaring and Airlinetools A32x.

Of course, I am betting on HiFiTech and at least FSLabs and Majestic to upfate their addons for P3D v6.”

- or maybe you had an “agenda” 😉

 

1 hour ago, SierraDelta said:

Wondering how you’ll do that, given that you wrote this 2 days ago in the P2D forum:

”I've been in MFS, and I even erased my MS account associated with it's acquisition... I'm eagerly waiting for Pd3 v6 and also further developments of specific platforms like Condorsoaring and Airlinetools A32x.

 

Of course, I am betting on HiFiTech and at least FSLabs and Majestic to upfate their addons for P3D v6.”

- or maybe you had an “agenda” 😉

 

Simple!  I'll have to buy MFS a 2nd time 🙂  Nothing inedit ( I bought FSX 5 times 🙂, XP11 3 times and P3D in monthly licensing several times too, Airlinetools A32x twice, DCS ... )

The Agenda is my Agenda - Uninstall !! Uninstall !! Uninstall !!! 🤣

Edited April 27, 20233 yr by jcomm

4 hours ago, jcomm said:

I'm a bit puzzled by some of the negative videos. Looks like some youtubers with even less than minimum knowledge about how to operate this type started firing at the release... But why? Agenda? 

My guess is looking for early clicks and likes.

Its been so long since we’ve had a well simulated ATR in the MSFS/P3D/FSX ecosystem (not sure about x-plane) that anyone trying to jump in and rush a flight relying on their experience with other airliners is bound to run into issues.  It’s unfortunate that this aircraft got such initial poor feedback which I’m convinced largely comes down to lack of familiarity and experience with the ATR.  I’m excited to learn something new.

Familiarity really helps. I'm used to flying the 72-500 from FS9 and FSX. If you know that you are halfway there. VNAV capabilities have greatly improved in the 600. On my first flights I didn't even realize that I could use it for climbs as well and had done it the IAS 170 way I was used to. Now I know I can set the speed to FMC calculated and just let the aircraft do it on its own. So convenient. Especially in the transition from TO to Climb

Edited April 27, 20233 yr by Farlis

1 hour ago, Farlis said:

Familiarity really helps. I'm used to flying the 72-500 from FS9 and FSX. If you know that you are halfway there. VNAV capabilities have greatly improved in the 600. On my first flights I didn't even realize that I could use it for climbs as well and had done it the IAS 170 way I was used to. Now I know I can set the speed to FMC calculated and just let the aircraft do it on its own. So convenient. Especially in the transition from TO to Climb

And not "having to rely" on an AT system makes it a bit more challenging and immersive than flying buses and boings 🙂

3 hours ago, regis9 said:

My guess is looking for early clicks and likes.

Its been so long since we’ve had a well simulated ATR in the MSFS/P3D/FSX ecosystem (not sure about x-plane) that anyone trying to jump in and rush a flight relying on their experience with other airliners is bound to run into issues.  It’s unfortunate that this aircraft got such initial poor feedback which I’m convinced largely comes down to lack of familiarity and experience with the ATR.  I’m excited to learn something new.

Not publishing the videos on release day was a HUGE PR MISS.

Just sayin,

-B

25 minutes ago, btacon said:

Not publishing the videos on release day was a HUGE PR MISS.

Just sayin,

-B

True.  It let a groundswell of bad opinions build up on the first day because people were getting frustrated or thought it wasn't functioning right.

Things are getting more positive now it is better understood, and hopefully with a few fixes from the developer, it can pull it back into a generally positive stance.
I notice some people are complaining about a lack of a cargo version as well - not sure if it as promised or due?

A lot of the discontent grows because communication and feedback is poor.  Surely someone could answer the Cargo version question in a matter of minutes on the official forums if they wanted to.

Edited April 27, 20233 yr by bobcat999

It apparently killed the Milviz bird. 

Next up: a mediocre A350 "flies well enough" release. Say goodby to an advanced version.

Be careful what you wish for....

32 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

It apparently killed the Milviz bird. 

Next up: a mediocre A350 "flies well enough" release. Say goodby to an advanced version.

Be careful what you wish for....

Disagree. I own almost every Milviz product published. P3d and now MSFS. I liked the planes they made but was never impressed with speed of development and overall quality. 

I am very glad for this quite well functioning ATR.  Milviz can miss the next Golden Ring on the Carrousel I guess.
-B 

Edited April 27, 20233 yr by btacon

9 hours ago, jcomm said:

 

I'm a bit puzzled by some of the negative videos. Looks like some youtubers with even less than minimum knowledge about how to operate this type started firing at the release... But why? Agenda? 

Well... time will tell, but from the watching, I am even tempted to try it too 🙂

 

I don't know why people complaining I personally enjoy flying it. It is fairly complex. In fact, it reminds me Leonardo MD80th - you need to learn how to fly it correctly and then it's just like "butter". 🙂

 

The content creators I try and follow are folks who are generally upbeat and positive on their channels. They'll call out a turkey of an addon, but they also don't post "I wasted my $15 so you don't have to."

As someone who is trying to get their YouTube channel going, I get the need to post something while interest is hot. However, in this case, the hot takes fade fast and it's better to have a measured, reasonable video a few days after.

Could someone please confirm:

1) The ATR is only available from the Marketplace?

2) In the simobjects folder are the cfg files encrypted or will they open in notepad?

Thanks!

Yes, the ATR is only available from the Marketplace and yes, the crucial .cfg files are indeed encrypted. 

1 hour ago, Ricardo41 said:

It apparently killed the Milviz bird. 

Next up: a mediocre A350 "flies well enough" release. Say goodby to an advanced version.

Be careful what you wish for....

Milviz also announced that ATR back in 2018 or 2019, and showed virtually no progress for P3D for years, before fading away and going radio silent. At the time of cancellation, I believe all we had were some renders, and the cancel was the first news on the project for months. I had always expected it to be vaporware, all of the delays for P3D and lack of updates gave the sense that the project just wasn't advancing.

I just don't think it's fair to compare a plane in-hand to one that might never have been released.

Edited April 27, 20233 yr by mspencer