July 5, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, tup61 said: seems a bit odd to have such an accent at CYVR Vancouver is a super diverse city you could have ANY accent there! Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
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July 5, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said: 1 hour ago, vbazillio said: And I'm not at all impress by the text2speech demonstrated in this segment for the take off clearance https://youtu.be/BH_pN0xK3rk?t=851 Sounded OK to me....?? Really? It doesn't sound any good. Nor in the accent (believe I'm french 😉 ) by the way there's a french accent in ATC Vancouver ?!? Nor in the quality of text2speech. Flew there in real twice or third (and just double check with LiveATC) and it's really (very) far from reality to have... this weird simulation of an Vancouver ATC (https://www.liveatc.net/search//?icao=cyvr) Edited July 5, 20232 yr by vbazillio Vincent B. Check my free MSFS sceneries : https://flightsim.to/profile/vbazillio/trending and my hardware configuration.
July 5, 20232 yr A video posted only an hour ago, with the modest headline title: "This Will Change the Way You Fly!" 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
July 5, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, brinx said: 1 hour ago, vbazillio said: I'm very skeptical in 2023 with anything "AI based". So much marketing BS. Not sure if you are only referring to AI in context of flight sim or in general. But AI is definitely the future. I could imagine AI being integrated into the sim in the coming years. Assuming they have enough ATC data, they could potentially train an ATC AI model. Indeed, it's about AI in the context of this discussion on B-ATC. And we can imagine whatever we want. But here, it's about what a new ATC addon 😉 can really deliver or not. Edited July 5, 20232 yr by vbazillio Vincent B. Check my free MSFS sceneries : https://flightsim.to/profile/vbazillio/trending and my hardware configuration.
July 5, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, alpha117 said: What about the question about ATC for YOU, isn't that the primary objective? Controlling AI surely comes secondary??? So, it has to be able to : 1. ... So, if you don't want Beyond ATC to achieve the above items BEFORE worrying about AI control, then perhaps you don't want a GOOD ATC program but a Better AI control program with ATC just tagged on the end I don't like to see "ATC program" and "AI control program" as opposites. Just that we were used to that from the recent years doesn't make it more reasonable. And we should do better in 2023. Actually AI control is supposed to be part of ATC. It is called ATC = "Air Traffic Control", not "single aircraft control". ATC is supposed to control all aircraft, not just one single aircraft while all other aircraft are roving around. That would not be ATC but just a chat-robot. What's the use of being given a correct taxiway route to the active runway if you get stuck on your taxiway because of a rogue AI aircraft? What's the use of being assigned the preferential runway as per real world data if AI aircraft are using the opposite runway? What's the use of handling emergencies if ATC is not able to clear the approach and runways for you? etc. The approach of VoxATC and FSHud seems more reasonable to me. First get the traffic - that means all the traffic - controlled and establish a realistic traffic flow on the ground and in the air including both AI and user aircraft, then add the implementation of special situations. I hope BeyondATC is aimed at being a complete ATC-addon, not just a chat-robot for the user. It would be nice to have some more competition. Edited July 5, 20232 yr by RALF9636
July 5, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, SierraHotel said: I don't think it will too long until someone comes up with an AI co-pilot................................. it's already an option
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July 5, 20232 yr I hope they can add local country phraseology. Clearance out of Canada is different to the US. Should be something like "Air Canada 123, Clearance, Cleared to Portland via the Vancouver 6 departure, flight plan route, depature runway 26L, squak 0506". Mark CYYZ
July 5, 20232 yr 20 minutes ago, vbazillio said: Indeed, it's about AI in the context of this discussion on B-ATC. And we can imagine whatever we want. But here, it's about what a new ATC addon 😉 can really deliver or not. It's just a beta, cut them some slack....knocking a program that isn't even released yet isn't very considerate. Edited July 5, 20232 yr by Bobsk8
July 5, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, MarkW said: I hope they can add local country phraseology. Clearance out of Canada is different to the US. Should be something like "Air Canada 123, Clearance, Cleared to Portland via the Vancouver 6 departure, flight plan route, depature runway 26L, squak 0506". They don't give clearance limit in Canada? Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
July 5, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, RALF9636 said: ... The approach of VoxATC and FSHud seems more reasonable to me. First get the traffic - that means all the traffic - controlled and establish a realistic traffic flow on the ground and in the air including both AI and user aircraft, then add the implementation of special situations. I hope BeyondATC is aimed at being a complete ATC-addon, not just a chat-robot for the user. It would be nice to have some more competition. However the voices in the two ATC programs you mentioned, are horrible. Listening to that on a two hour flight, and I probably would quit flying for good.
July 5, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: However the voices in the two ATC programs you mentioned, are horrible. Listening to that on a two hour flight, and I probably would quit flying for good. Just give it a rest. There are many features much more essential to an ATC addon than voices. And the quality of voices is highly subjective as well. For example many people dislike the voices of PF3...
July 5, 20232 yr Author 36 minutes ago, RALF9636 said: Just give it a rest. There are many features much more essential to an ATC addon than voices. And the quality of voices is highly subjective as well. For example many people dislike the voices of PF3... Let's not have this discussion about the voices again! It was already discussed long enough in other topics! Everybody has its own preferences...... Edited July 5, 20232 yr by rob0203
July 5, 20232 yr I'm confused by the comments that 1. you can have customized airport files to specify runway usage to mirror real life (ie. land with a few knot tailwind if its the preferred config). 2. This wouldn't control AI, just talk to it. These seem like very opposite comments, unless we are somehow expecting to land at an airport opposite direction of AI. Realistic airport ops for AI are one of the main reasons I use PSXT and Real Traffic, so if this could get around that while offering ATC to myself than that's definitely a win. Nick Running
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