Whoever wants gsx with no bells and whistles already have a tool dont they? Toolbar pushback?

37 minutes ago, rome0kil0 said:

Whoever wants gsx with no bells and whistles already have a tool dont they? Toolbar pushback?

Theres no tug in free version or Aerosoft's rip off version - its invisible

I can’t live without GSX, it adds so much immersion. I’ve been using it since Level 2 was released for P3D

Edited February 5, 20251 yr by Tuskin38

7 minutes ago, Richard Sennett said:

Theres no tug in free version or Aerosoft's rip off version - its invisible

Oh, i was referring to the ambitious pilots toolbar pushback, free and has tugs

https://flightsim.to/file/15033/toolbar-pushback

57 minutes ago, rome0kil0 said:

Oh, i was referring to the ambitious pilots toolbar pushback, free and has tugs

https://flightsim.to/file/15033/toolbar-pushback

It doesnt have visible tug as far as I know - has it been updated recently ?

5 hours ago, JonathanC said:

others telling me how this is the epitome of perfection and thus my wish is unnecessary since we already have everything we need. 

Never made that claim. GSX has its own sets of problems but it being complex or hard to understand isn’t one of them, pending people actually read the manual.

 

5 hours ago, JonathanC said:

In that case, I wish you and the other users of GSX Pro good luck and much enjoyment with this product that apparently is all things to all people and can do no wrong. 

Also never made that claim, what is it with some people just taking the extremes because their opinion gets rationally countered. I never took that approach with you so why behave this way?

I more than welcome competition to what GSX provides. GSX is very linear and structured (though umberto has made updates to lessen that to a degree) which presents a set of problems to people who don’t follow these structured rules in how GSX functions. These are entirely fair problems however, these problems can be minimised immensely by reading the manual and adhering to its clearly defined structure.

i would love to see a ground services application that is more dynamic in its operation but that is a MASSIVE undertaking considering how complex GSX already is with its own problems. SayIntentions has “plans” for something along those lines but I’ll wait to see if it genuinely comes to fruition that offers the same feature set that GSX has. For now it does the job but I never once claimed it was perfect.

13 hours ago, virtuali said:

Also, note that GSX Pro is designed to also be remotely controlled by 3rd party developers ( see what Fenix, Leonardo and Fs Labs did

I can vouch for this integration in P3Dv5 with the FS Labs Concorde. Excellent cooperation between the two parties results in a very realistic simulation of how it must have been when Concorde was operating. 👏

1 hour ago, Lucky38i said:

Also never made that claim, what is it with some people just taking the extremes because their opinion gets rationally countered.

My opinion is simply that I would welcome some new, better software. That’s what I started with. Glad you felt the need to rationally counter this. 

Then, as usual, the GSX pile on began with the developer doing his usual thing. 

Then a bunch more people tell me how everything is in the manual and on YouTube and after all the issue is just that us poor silly users can’t or won’t read a simple manual, watch a simple video, and just try to understand this fine program. 

How about this? I concede all your points and leave you to enjoy GSX. 

Consider me suitably informed that GSX is the program that every single simmer who has any pretensions to doing airline ops must get or else you aren’t a real simmer (tm). 

I actually didn't read the manual... I just figured it out on the fly.

14 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

I can’t live without GSX, it adds so much immersion. I’ve been using it since Level 2 was released for P3D

Only gripe that I have is the nonsensical behaviour of the follow-me vehicles. They often just drive round your plane in circles and then shoot off into the distance, leaving you no wiser.

I prefer to focus on the flying aspects of this type of accessories never caught my attention if you add to that the history of problems and conflicts between the addon and other products my opinion is that I would save the money.

I've been uising GSX since it first came out and have there been some issues yup, are they still there nope. If you want the full turnaround experience then GSX is a great addon and worth the cost IMHO. You will have to put a bit of effort in to get it working how you want it to, just like any version of FS you can mention. but there is an extensive manual and plenty of information on the WWW. I use it everyday and have no real complaints at all. There is a trial version I believe at certain airports, check it out.
 

Edited February 6, 20251 yr by BrianT

11 hours ago, JonathanC said:

My opinion is simply that I would welcome some new, better software. That’s what I started with. Glad you felt the need to rationally counter this. 

Then, as usual, the GSX pile on began with the developer doing his usual thing. 

Then a bunch more people tell me how everything is in the manual and on YouTube and after all the issue is just that us poor silly users can’t or won’t read a simple manual, watch a simple video, and just try to understand this fine program. 

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How about this? I concede all your points and leave you to enjoy GSX. 

Consider me suitably informed that GSX is the program that every single simmer who has any pretensions to doing airline ops must get or else you aren’t a real simmer (tm). 

 

 

None of this actually happened.  You gave an opinion.  Others gave their opinion some of which were different to yours.  It's called discourse.  

It's no different than the person who criticizes 2024 and immediately has the same 5 people telling them how wrong they are and how wonderful it all is "for them" or the person who boasts about 2024 and has the same 5 people telling THEM they are wrong and it's an alpha...  Welcome to the party.

Talk about taking something to the extremes.  No one said ANYTHING of the sort ANYWHERE in this thread.  

5 hours ago, IanHarrison said:

Only gripe that I have is the nonsensical behaviour of the follow-me vehicles. They often just drive round your plane in circles and then shoot off into the distance, leaving you no wiser.

How it follows the taxiways is up to the quality of the airport's AFCAD. You can also disable fleeing in the settings.

5 hours ago, IanHarrison said:

Only gripe that I have is the nonsensical behaviour of the follow-me vehicles. They often just drive round your plane in circles and then shoot off into the distance, leaving you no wiser.

If the Follow Me fled, it's because you were following it from too close.

With "too close" not being just a matter of distance, there's a predictive logic that takes into account the follow me location and speed against your own location and speed, and will try to guess if you are risking clashing into the follow me in the next xxxx seconds, because if we just made a dumb system based on distance only, by the time you crossed that threshold, it might be too late to brake due to the plane ground inertia, hence the usage of a predictive method, which evaluates both your speed and your acceleration so, even if you think you are reasonably far away, if your ground speed accelerates too quickly, it would trigger the car "Fleeing", while if your speed is constant, you can get closer to it.

Of course, as many things with GSX, this can be configured, so if you disable the FollowMe Disable “FLEE” option in the Settings, this whole system will be disabled.

Now, this is just the FLEE algorithm, which is always reported (if you keep the menu enabled and your verbosity is default) with a message saying the Follow me was aborted for safety reasons.

Entirely different is the Follow me going around the airplane, but not fleeing.

This is usually caused by issues with the airport layout, there might be cases where due to that, your airplane ends up *between* the next point on path to the gate and the follow me car so, instead of just passing under the airplane, it will circle around it, because we consider a "bubble" around the airplane, and it's almost impossible to sort out all cases where the best path might possibly end up in that situation due to the way the airport nodes are connected.

Edited February 6, 20251 yr by virtuali