On 12/8/2023 at 3:09 PM, Baber20 said:

A missed opportunity for Microsoft. Biology has officially joined Laminar.

But it's a great luck for MS "jump off the palm" programmers.

On 12/9/2023 at 2:09 PM, lwt1971 said:

MSFS can still render the kind and variety of clouds it did pre-SU7, but in manually configured weather.

This is why I use xEnviro for live weather. Quite amazing the number of different cloud types it produces over MSFS default   many of the cloudscapes it produces are stunning.

There used to be a rule when calibrating your color scheme for a video shoot. Point the camera to a white object -- usually a white sheet of paper, then lock the White Balance button on your camera. The theory was that, if you get white accurate, the rest of the colors in the scene will be accurate as well. Whether this past video procedure has any relevance to colors in MSFS, I don't know. Someone comment ...

On 12/8/2023 at 9:15 PM, F737MAX said:

Decided to use the MortThe2nd colours with the Drunq 3-files mod:

Both shots taken at 14:45Z over the Balkans.

[COEFFICIENTS]
RED = 0.00508
GREEN = 0.00318
BLUE = 0.0
 

So what are now the default  ASOBO coefficients after SU 14 ?   Do you know them sir ?

Thank you

 

Edited December 14, 20232 yr by Ray Proudfoot
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3 hours ago, Jovzin said:

So what are now the default  ASOBO coefficients after SU 14 ?   Do you know them sir ?

I believe these are them:

Red: 0.002291070065
Green: 0.001540360041
Blue: 0.0

Still haven't seen this pink people are talking about.

On 12/14/2023 at 3:08 PM, F737MAX said:

I believe these are them:

Red: 0.002291070065
Green: 0.001540360041
Blue: 0.0

Thank you sir.

I like more the MortThe2nd  settings. And would love to edit them permanently without need for some more dll or exe file like there is some github mod for this.

On 12/14/2023 at 3:08 PM, F737MAX said:

I believe these are them:

Red: 0.002291070065
Green: 0.001540360041
Blue: 0.0

Thank you sir.

I like more the MortThe2nd  settings. And would love to edit them permanently without need for some more dll or exe file like there is some github mod for this.

On 12/14/2023 at 10:05 AM, Tuskin38 said:

Still haven't seen this pink people are talking about.

Seems to be highly dependent on where you fly.  Winter flights near KMSP area seem to exhibit the pink tint especially when above a layer of clouds.

It's a long time since @Biology was present on this forum, but I'd really appreciate their take on lighting in MSFS2024, given the impact they had on inspiring MS/Asobo to modify MSFS2020's atmospheric colouring/light scattering at short notice.

Having been using 2024 for the last couple of weeks, I'd argue that the atmospheric lighting in 2024 has taken a step backwards (or perhaps more fairly sideways) from what we had in 2020. Apparently not sticking to the improvements outlined in the studies he highlighted, resulting in a less realistic and definitely less varied depiction of the sky.

Separately there's the whole question regarding clouds in 2024 and the LOD issues of distant clouds that have resulted in an overall less realistic depiction of the sky, while simultaneously adding some variety that we didn't have before. I think it's all been brought into focus a lot more lately with the release of the latest XP betas where they seem to have nailed the overall lighting and cloudscapes at the expense of a cloud definition, where MSFS still clearly wins (at close proximity to clouds anyway).

On the cloud LOD issue, there's currently a bug report on the official forums in need of some support, so that those of us who agree with my viewpoint (and who feel strongly enough about it!) can try and get MS's attention once they move past the bug fixing stage of MSFS2024 and start prioritizing new changes.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/clouds-are-very-poor-quality-in-the-distance/709022

 

I could be wrong but I think they may have been hired by Laminar Research to help with X-Plane on similar changes. Which may explain why they haven't been active in this forum. 

1 minute ago, Zangoose said:

I could be wrong but I think they may have been hired by Laminar Research to help with X-Plane on similar changes. Which may explain why they haven't been active in this forum. 

True,

he is now part of the LR Team.

Oh wow! And that explains why the XP atmosphere just got such an impressive upgrade... The MSFS team missed a trick there, not hiring him in to their team instead.

According to some people in these forums, the sky colors in MSFS 2024 are perfect as is.  (They know who they are.)

They looked MUCH better in 2020 because of Biology's fixes, but they have obviously since been changed.

Laminar hired him because of his incredible knowledge in the field.  Not to mention he's an accomplished programmer.

I recently waxed lyrical about MSFS2024, having just recently upgraded to it for the first time. I'm now at the point of reverting full-time to MSFS because I just can't get over the sky colors, the downgrade to the clouds and, most importantly the not-infrequent and seemingly random crashes that I'm experiencing.

I also was really disappointed to see that simFX likely isn't coming to MSFS2024 at all. I don't need all of the effects, but the basic contrails that it provided were such a big improvement over what we had in 2020, and obviously infinitely better than the zero contrails we get in 2024.

I used XPlane 11 back in the day for a year or two before MSFS2020 was released. I never bought into 12, but I'm starting to think I should give it a go.

If I could merge MSFS's ground and graphical fidelity with XPlane's sky, cameras and flight modeling I'd be a happy camper... How hard can that be?! 😁

Edited May 28, 20251 yr by Redge