Supposedly the C172 got those new 4 parameters in it's FM CFG that fine tune ground physics.

Any feedback from beta testers appreciated !

8 hours ago, turbomax said:

yes, because a picture is worth a 1.000 posts:

https://www.capframex.com/

Look at the frametime (variances) piechart rather than the stuttering piechart to understand microstutter better.

Edited February 15, 20242 yr by redshift27

15 hours ago, rutrA said:

Fixed an issue where GPS signal could degrade inappropriately during long flight sessions.

So thats what the problem was! And I was thinking WT had actually simulated real-world GPS reception issues.

4 hours ago, MattNischan said:

The new ground handling model is opt-in for developers and must be enabled and tuned in the aircraft CFG files, in order to keep backwards compatibility. Out of those aircraft, only the 172 has received these changes. The other aircraft are still using the previous model.

Are the ground handling improvements in the PMDG 737 mentioned by others just an illusion then? It is absolutely certain that this needs to be corrected, because having the nosewheel skid when turning at 10 knots is definitely not realistic, and extremely annoying.

14 hours ago, regis9 said:

This one will be a nice fix...I haven't been able to use the AI Radios function for a very long time and have had to work the radios while also being the pilot flying (woe is me 🙂 )

"Resolved an issue where users were experiencing a loss of audio for ATC instructions and other aircraft communications, while the AI copilot continued to respond."

I hope it also fixes the situation when not only the audio is lost but also the written messages from ATC is missing. Especially on longer trips sometimes  I can hear my AI copilot reply to ATC messages that are neither audible nor readable in the ATC window.

I flew the sim torture test over Manhattan at TLOD 300 last night then landed at LGA and it was far more fluid with higher FPS than I’ve seen before.  This was once I capped my AI traffic to 130 aircraft (running free AIG has injected around 420).  With full traffic I still got some stuttering but once capped it was mostly smooth.

Tonight will be the airline torture test, flying out of inibuilds JFK to another challenging performance area TBD (maybe Toronto or Chicago).

Interesting that the ground physics need to be enabled by the aircraft devs to be in effect.  I started (but did not complete) a flight in the FSS E175 and it felt like the need for breakaway thrust was modelled very well which I don’t recall in the past, though perhaps that was a previous update to that aircraft.

Edited February 15, 20242 yr by regis9

Has anyone noticed a significantly less VRAM usage yet?

So can anybody do this cut and paste of the new ground handling characteristics into the config file?  I would like to try it in a few other GA aircraft.

Strange that Asobo didn't add it to all of the default aircraft if it is so simple to do.  Maybe they are waiting for feedback from beta testers.

8 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Maybe they are waiting for feedback from beta testers.

They usually do a small rollout of these changes, to see the feedback from the community. And based on the community feedback, they may tweak or fix it until they get it right. Then once they get it right, I think they usually roll it out to more aircraft in a later Sim Update.

Edited February 15, 20242 yr by abrams_tank

12 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

Well I am glad for you, but that is very strange, because there have been no improvements to the PMDG planes yet.  The ground handling improvements only take effect on three default Asobo planes at the moment.  The C172 being one of them.

Something is different because I probably have close to 2000 hours in the PMDG planes in MSFS I could immediately tell a difference.  Is the skidding completely eliminated, no, but it doesn't seem to start skidding near as fast prior to this beta.  I just tried a 360 on a runway at 10 knots and it was possible where that would be a complete struggle prior to beta.

9 minutes ago, rjack1282 said:

Something is different because I probably have close to 2000 hours in the PMDG planes in MSFS I could immediately tell a difference.  Is the skidding completely eliminated, no, but it doesn't seem to start skidding near as fast prior to this beta.  I just tried a 360 on a runway at 10 knots and it was possible where that would be a complete struggle prior to beta.

OK.  Well maybe they have made some core sim changes that they haven't disclosed.

I have the PMDG 737's.  I will try one later and see if I can tell any difference.

Now flying the Iris PC-21 the HUD is choppy at High refresh, seems Medium is now High. Really annoying.

Others also reporting avionics not smooth...

3 hours ago, redshift27 said:

Look at the frametime (variances) piechart rather than the stuttering piechart to understand microstutter better.

Good point! This is from final approach FlyTampa YSSY in the RV-14, as I mentioned earlier in this thread:

I'm tempted to do a proper, empty community folder, clear weather before-after comparison. BUT - I don't think I can be bothered uninstalling and reinstalling the beta. 

There's not been much discussion on this so far in the thread: 

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Initial work on improving plane and livery model matching for live traffic aircraft. It will now try to partially match aircraft types of the same airlines, if a specific livery or model is not installed. As a last resort it will try to fall back to an airline that generally serves the current airport or region.

(from the release notes).

I've been running real-time online traffic for the last few sessions w/ FSLTL models in the community folder. Getting what seems like "proper" liveries at different airports. Only seen one blank one so far. 

KJFK: 

Edited February 15, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

11 hours ago, xraythree said:

Thank you for responding mobeans. I get smooth stutter free performance, but this tile creeping in a cone below the plane saddens me, especially this late in the game. It didn’t happen in the past, but now always. I’m surprised there  is hardly any mention of it in these forums.

I had that few weeks ago, mentioned it on here, then suddenly it stopped, so i'm guessing now its a server issue their end that comes and goes.

For example after the DUNE update, i had a flight with no tiles at all bar the basic ones, it looks awful, i panicked, restarted it and all was back to normal.. 

Which as it doesn't affect all at the same time or points or areas, very few posts about it..