May 6, 20242 yr 10 minutes ago, agutz said: I did a few flights with Early Access BATC and quite liked it for what it does but I'm a bit surprised that BATC in its present state is in this thread discussed as an "Air Traffic Control" program. It controls my a/c, but that's all it does. All the other programs occasionally mentioned here try, with more and less success, to control my a/c in dependence of what other a/c around me are doing. In its present state BeyondATC should rather be named "BeforeATC". It doesn't do anything I cannot do with a Simbrief route, PMDG's FMC and the excellent Aivla Soft's EFB (unfortunately no longer available) in an otherwise empty sky. The proof of the pudding will come when BATC steers me through crowded air space, whether traffic will be generated by MSFS or by the ATC program itself. Venerable RC4 did just that: exemprarily controlling traffic generated by FSX or P3D. Unfortunaly it's not compatible with MSFS. NB: Real life ATC was created when the airspace became so crowded that some strikt control was neccessary. Crowded airspace was and is its raison d'être. In an empty sky we don't need any. Aivlasoft EFB will be available to the end of 2025, and maybe longer.
May 6, 20242 yr 24 minutes ago, ark4diusz said: I do not follow the development info / threads on BATC Discord. Have one question, is there any indication regarding the traffic injection feature implementation timeline? Is 2024 release achievable, or should we expect 2025? Is there any rough estimate? If you mean injecting traffic under ATC control my guess would be 2035, if at all. Edited May 6, 20242 yr by kiek
May 6, 20242 yr Can this application do just GA IFR? I don't use simbrief etc. Where does it get my FPL from? Is SB the only way to use this program? I just want to fly general aviation direct or airways etc, and then shoot approaches. Is it only for IFR airliners? | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
May 6, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, ryanbatc said: Can this application do just GA IFR? I don't use simbrief etc. Where does it get my FPL from? Is SB the only way to use this program? I just want to fly general aviation direct or airways etc, and then shoot approaches. Is it only for IFR airliners? At this point only IFR and simbrief... André
May 6, 20242 yr 6 minutes ago, ryanbatc said: Can this application do just GA IFR? I don't use simbrief etc. Where does it get my FPL from? Is SB the only way to use this program? I just want to fly general aviation direct or airways etc, and then shoot approaches. Is it only for IFR airliners? You can do GA IFR but you have to use SimBrief for the flight plan. There was one beta tester that all he did was GA IFR. He helped them add a lot of features you need for that into the program. One example is requesting clearance from an uncontrolled airport. Edited May 6, 20242 yr by ShadowN7
May 6, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, kiek said: If you mean injecting traffic under ATC control my guess would be 2035, if at all. In the beginning when BATC was first announced in development, there was an uproar by some stating that if it didn't control AI , it was worthless. Then the developer decided he would incorporate AI control, and now I think he has found himself holding a tiger by the tail. They have had different AI programs over the years, some better than others, and all they had to do was control AI. To combine these two functions, AI under ATC control, to everyone's satisfaction, is far in the distance, if it ever happens. In the mean time, I just dial my AI back a bit so it doesn't flood the skies, and the problems I have flying airliners at a rate of about 15 flights per week, is miniscule. Haven't had a mid air yet. 😉 Edited May 6, 20242 yr by Bobsk8
May 6, 20242 yr 13 minutes ago, virtualstuff said: At this point only IFR and simbrief... ahhh. darn. Is simbrief free? I've looked at like once haha. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
May 6, 20242 yr 40 minutes ago, ark4diusz said: I do not follow the development info / threads on BATC Discord. Have one question, is there any indication regarding the traffic injection feature implementation timeline? Is 2024 release achievable, or should we expect 2025? Is there any rough estimate? Dev said that the release of version with AI Traffic injection will take place within 2-4 months after the EA release. Additionally, if someone purchased the Support version, they will get an earlier version for testing AI traffic. AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, MSI RTX 5090, 64GB RAM 6000MHz DDR5, Tuf Gaming X870Plus, 1200W PSU English is not my first language.
May 6, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, ryanbatc said: ahhh. darn. Is simbrief free? I've looked at like once haha. Yep is still free only the airac update is from navigraph André
May 6, 20242 yr There seems to be some regional accents as well, I was in New York and had ATC with a Brooklyn accent. 2 minutes ago, ryanbatc said: ahhh. darn. Is simbrief free? I've looked at like once haha. Yes, but the AIRAC cycle is way behind unless you subscribe to Navigraph.
May 6, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said: There seems to be some regional accents as well, I was in New York and had ATC with a Brooklyn accent. Yes, but the AIRAC cycle is way behind unless you subscribe to Navigraph. i have navigraph rog. I'm very tempted by the app haha. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
May 6, 20242 yr Regarding the more or less 'terrible' foreign accent voices in the basic model the lead dev stated a few minutes ago on discord that there will be an option 'to turn them off' in the next build.If that really happens: 👍 'It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.'
May 6, 20242 yr Very Very Basically , is it worth the ££ for someone who doesn't / hasn't got time for Vatsim and knows the default sim ATC is rubbish , but would like to do a bit of ATC interaction , and no aim not expecting miracles 😊 ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS 2TB 980 Pro , MSFS 2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack) Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons
May 6, 20242 yr 6 minutes ago, sonny147 said: Very Very Basically , is it worth the ££ for someone who doesn't / hasn't got time for Vatsim and knows the default sim ATC is rubbish , but would like to do a bit of ATC interaction , and no aim not expecting miracles 😊 I think so. It's not a bad ATC for learning the basics of talking to it for Vatsim practice. I like it so far. The $29.99 version is the one to get.
May 6, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, ryanbatc said: Can this application do just GA IFR? I don't use simbrief etc. Where does it get my FPL from? Is SB the only way to use this program? I just want to fly general aviation direct or airways etc, and then shoot approaches. Is it only for IFR airliners? Did a short fligt tody 60nm ESNK i get vectored direct to Lpv and cleared for LPV 17 from sweden control but ESNK has no tower the flightplan i made for simbrief , yes it should work i used tbm850 for that flight, ESNN/34 N0267F060 DCT NK852 DCT ESNK/17 http://
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