1 hour ago, bvdboomen said:

I believe they did mention that contact with the grass is influencing the behavior on the ground as an example?
ORBX's Holger and team doing the mesh in 2024 too? Maybe the terrain morphing can be brought to a minimum I hope.

...and those weird issues can be resolved where the elevation data of some small islands does not activate until I am almost on top of it!!

Edited June 23, 20241 yr by Christopher Low

3 hours ago, Sethos said:

I absolutely love how they embrace addons within the community to this extend. They aren't wasting resources creating half-baked alternatives, they just reach out to the best and most established people in their field and bring them on-board. 

I totally agree. as a welcome side effect for MSFS: all that external talent is exclusive to MSFS,  thus limiting these potential improvements for other sims and increasing the gaps even further.

9 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

I wonder who their chart provider is. Did they finally work things out with NavBlue?

I am wondering that too. The example chart shown: ILS14L at LFBO is not the Jeppesen version. It may be the LIDO version, or it may be from NavBlue (which was the original intended chart supplier for MSFS going back to the very beginning of the franchise).

OR the charts are procedurally generated from the core nav data the way that the recently discontinued Aivlasoft EFB did for charts. 

Edited June 23, 20241 yr by JRBarrett

9 hours ago, Jeff Nielsen said:

Yeah, those are LIDO.  Makes sense if they're using Navblue.

LIDO (which is owned by Lufthansa) is a competitor in the r/w charts world to NavBlue. NB has their own charts product. The current supplier of LIDO charts for flight sim use is Aerosoft, but their charts product has never been as popular as Navigraph’s (which uses Jeppesen). 

10 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

The roadmap at the start of the presentation did have two small images for the next two world updates, but they never said what they were

WU17 looks to be Glasgow University so Scotland or UK part 2?

WU18 looks like St Mary's Church in Gdansk so my guess is it'll be Poland

wow, 2024 looks absolutely incredible ❤️

Today, in the Markeplace "presentation", I hope that there will be some talk about the compatibility of addons between "2020" and "2024".

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

??? how does that fit together.  the hardest part for me will be the wait til November 19.

I have vastly more pressing demands on my finances than replacing an already excellent sim with a newer version of the same (albeit one which looks like being so much better). Simple as that. It'll happen, just maybe not straight away.

I've updated my post on the MSFS forums, adding all info revealed at the Flight Sim Expo 2024 so far, also including the confirmed planes etc, in case you want an easy summary of all features and improvements!
MSFS 2024 feature/improvement summary (updated June 2024) - Discussion Hub / MSFS 2024 - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

I'm blown away with the scope of the new sim, the improvements will be huge, ranging from the core sim, to the world, with major stuff as new physics, aerodynamic and lightning engines!

11 hours ago, 109Sqn said:

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But most of all, I think MS deserve credit for identifying and accepting that there are talented teams and individuals out there who they can work with rather than try to compete against to improve the sim. 
...

(fewer non-integrated apps to have to install and update). 👍

A slight alteration to the above: It still may apply to some devs they are partnering with for 2024, but Kai from GAIST has said, in the dedicated thread here, :

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Exactly what the destiny of GAIST will be in MSFS 2024 is still unclear, but it will not, as some already interpreted it, be integrated into MSFS. But more about that in the coming months.

So not every add-on dev partner will have their product integrated. Would have been nice (as long as its use wasn't mandatory for those who didn't want to use it), but not a deal-breaker.

 

(I did try to delete the laughing emoji in my self-quote, but removing emojis always seems next to impossible on a tablet for some reason I've never understood).

Edited June 23, 20241 yr by 109Sqn
Kai, not Henrik

1 hour ago, JRBarrett said:

LIDO (which is owned by Lufthansa) is a competitor in the r/w charts world to NavBlue. NB has their own charts product. The current supplier of LIDO charts for flight sim use is Aerosoft, but their charts product has never been as popular as Navigraph’s (which uses Jeppesen). 

Navigraph used LIDO before switching to Jeppesen. A decision I personally was not happy about, as I always detested the Jeppesen layout. I would look forward to having both available IN sim.

Something that Aerosoft's NavData Pro does not offer.

11 minutes ago, Maelmoor said:

I've updated my post on the MSFS forums, adding all info revealed at the Flight Sim Expo 2024 so far, also including the confirmed planes etc, in case you want an easy summary of all features and improvements!
MSFS 2024 feature/improvement summary (updated June 2024) - Discussion Hub / MSFS 2024 - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

I'm blown away with the scope of the new sim, the improvements will be huge, ranging from the core sim, to the world, with major stuff as new physics, aerodynamic and lightning engines!

The incorporation of so much from the community (PuffinFlight, GAIST, Fabio, AIG, etc.) along with adding a better planner with charts and a true replay function is really exciting. I wonder if there will be a need for Navigraph?

Edited June 23, 20241 yr by ricka47

18 minutes ago, 109Sqn said:

A slight alteration to the above: It still may apply to some devs they are partnering with for 2024, but Henrik from GAIST has said, in the dedicated thread here, :

That was Kai not Henrik 🙂

1 hour ago, JRBarrett said:

I am wondering that too. The example chart shown: ILS14L at LFBO is not the Jeppesen version. It may be the LIDO version, or it may be from NavBlue (which was the original intended chart supplier for MSFS going back to the very beginning of the franchise).

OR the charts are procedurally generated from the core nav data the way that the recently discontinued Aivlasoft EFB did for charts. 

Am I reading too much into this. or could there be a reason why Aivlasoft EFB was recently discontinued?

12 minutes ago, MarcG said:

That was Kai not Henrik 🙂

Oops, now edited. Thanks.