July 8, 20241 yr For those who fly the PMDG 737/777. Is it better to use the ground services from GSX or PMDG? I'm not sure if PMDG has GSX integration like the Fenix does. ASUS ROG Maximus Hero XII ▪︎ Intel i9-10900K ▪︎ NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE ▪︎ 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ▪︎ Windows 10 Pro (21H1) ▪︎ Samsung 970 EVO Pro 1TB NVME SSD (OS Drive) ▪︎ Samsung 860 EVO 2TB SATA SSD ▪︎ Seagate 4TB SATA HDD ▪︎ Corsair RMx 850W PSU
July 8, 20241 yr Define "better"? Both are just visual representations. The GSX ground services are vastly superior IMO, be it in quality (local operator logos, colors etc.) or in quantity (different models). The 737 has a GSX integretation (not from PMDG but from GSX), it will fuel the actual aircraft when you call the truck and board the actual passengers (= enter the payload in the FMC) when you click boarding. The 777 not yet, but surely this will come soon. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
July 8, 20241 yr I use a mixture although mostly GSX, especially Gsx for boarding as you get the animated passengers. Also, the vehicles drive to the plane rather than just appear so use GSX for fuelling and catering
July 8, 20241 yr I use the PMDG services as a backup, in case GSX fails (i.e., Couatl crashes). Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
July 8, 20241 yr I use PMDG, that Couatl nonsense is a huge turn off for me. I had GSX on P3D and vowed never to use it again as all it did was crash my sim. Just my opinion. Jack Sawyer
July 8, 20241 yr GSX if you have it. Pushback is much more automated and will generally leave you in a good spot rather than you needing to specify distances etc. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
July 8, 20241 yr 45 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said: I use PMDG, that Couatl nonsense is a huge turn off for me I can't bother with that FSDT stuff anymore after FSX. I remember Couatl just adding an extra layer of headache along with KIAH Houston terrain issues. Edited July 8, 20241 yr by blueshark747 Asus Maximus X Hero Z370/ Windows 10 MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled) 8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled) 32GB DDR4 3000 Ram 500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2
July 8, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, blueshark747 said: I can't bother with that FSDT stuff anymore after FSX. I remember Couatl just adding an extra layer of headache along with KIAH Houston terrain issues. More than a decade has passed since that. Juan Ramos
July 8, 20241 yr I don't user either one. I enjoy flying not watching trucks driving to the aircraft.
July 8, 20241 yr GSX would obviously prevail IF(!!!) someone develops proper macros, as it was done with FENIX (marvelous integration) and PMDG NGX. For now, you still have to manually enter both fuel and ZFW. 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
July 8, 20241 yr 35 minutes ago, xender said: More than a decade has passed since that. You saying I should give FSDT a try in MSFS? Asus Maximus X Hero Z370/ Windows 10 MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled) 8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled) 32GB DDR4 3000 Ram 500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2
July 8, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, blueshark747 said: You saying I should give FSDT a try in MSFS? I just say that things change (Sometimes for the better, sometimes for worse) and it may be useful to keep an open mind. caveat emptor of course. On my case for example, the experience of using GSX has been waaay better than the days of fsx. No obscure couatl/python errors so far. Juan Ramos
July 8, 20241 yr In my experience GSX is very stable now. I was having some issues with coutl crashing / stopping but they were patched out several months ago. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
July 8, 20241 yr I prefer GSX. Just make sure that for every airport you are using, that you have a well defined GSX pushback profile. Not all airports will have them by default. Otherwise GSX ends up pushing you into really weird spots, or completes the pushback halfway. In this case you'll get massively p*ssd off with GSX, but to be fair, that is not GSX fault at all.
July 9, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, regis9 said: In my experience GSX is very stable now. I was having some issues with coutl crashing / stopping but they were patched out several months ago. I may finally give it a try this weekend. Does FSDT’s own airports come with a good profile or do you have to get them on .to? Also ford it install itself in the community folder making an uninstall easy? Eric
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