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Best ATC Add-One without AI traffic taken into account

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Prefer BATC, especially now with the traffic added. I think they will keep updating it and add functionality. The interface is pretty straightforward.

Lee

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    What an odd and unprofessional response. You clearly have a conflict of interest here. Someone is asking for opinions on a product. If you are affiliated with that product because you work for th

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    Aren't you one of the developers of SI? Might want to add that as a disclaimer...

I wouldn't recommend BATC at all. It's not ready and still full of bugs to basic ATC functions. 

IE: I flew into KALS tonight in a CJ4. I setup an ILS approach and instead the ATC wanted to vector me for manual approach to a DIRT RUNWAY. And when I asked to change it, it gave me the same bug it does everytime which is a basic runaround which results in being given the runway change and then having the ATC revert back to the old one. 

And this isn't a one-off situation, it's done this OVER and OVER again to me. I don't fly large airliners, and I don't often fly into large airports. I suspect nobody is really testing this beyond those, because every airport I fly to winds up with this situation. 

I finally asked for, and to their credit, received a full refund tonight. I might check back later to see if it's any better, but then they banned me from their discord, which seems petty. I'll take my biz elsewhere at this point. 

From the features available it has to be SayIntentions. 

It´s fully AI. It has VFR. It has IFR. It has Navigraph Data. It has a TaxiTuner-Feature. Progressive Taxi Lines.
Tour-Tuner. Lots of interactive Cabin Crews. A Co-Pilot who handles the radios for you. 14 languages. 

I forgot several other features but compare for yourself. 

SI here as well. New features and improvements come all the time, and traffic will be added after MSFS2024 is released. BATC is not bad, but I have to keep repeating myself with it - that is not needed with SI.

Rick Abshier

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13 minutes ago, ifred said:

From the features available it has to be SayIntentions. 

It´s fully AI. It has VFR. It has IFR. It has Navigraph Data. It has a TaxiTuner-Feature. Progressive Taxi Lines.
Tour-Tuner. Lots of interactive Cabin Crews. A Co-Pilot who handles the radios for you. 14 languages. 

I forgot several other features but compare for yourself. 

Aren't you one of the developers of SI? Might want to add that as a disclaimer...

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Sorry that I continue to bother you with my questions about BATC.

 

If BATC does not hot have an option to select approach/runway different from ATIS reading, may I set a pre-determined flight plan with fixed elements such as departing runway, SID, STAR, approach, arriving runway to avoid any "surprises"?

 

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33 minutes ago, ricka47 said:

SI here as well. New features and improvements come all the time, and traffic will be added after MSFS2024 is released. BATC is not bad, but I have to keep repeating myself with it - that is not needed with SI.

Is it possible to ignore ATIS and select different STARs, runways and approaches with SI?

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4 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

Is it possible to ignore ATIS and select different STARs, runways and approaches with SI?

Yeah, I just ask for what I want, and they usually give it to me. I understand that may be tightened up a bit down the road. I routinely ask for a different approach and always get it.

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18 minutes ago, ricka47 said:

Yeah, I just ask for what I want, and they usually give it to me. I understand that may be tightened up a bit down the road. I routinely ask for a different approach and always get it.

Thanks! It's voice only, right?

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1 hour ago, Speedbird 217 said:

Aren't you one of the developers of SI? Might want to add that as a disclaimer...

I am 18+ and have an opinion, regardless what I am doing.

 

24 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

Thanks! It's voice only, right?

 

24 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

Thanks! It's voice only, right?

You can also type into a text box if you don´t want to talk to ATC.

 

1 hour ago, ifred said:

I am 18+ and have an opinion, regardless what I am doing.

 

What an odd and unprofessional response.

You clearly have a conflict of interest here. Someone is asking for opinions on a product. If you are affiliated with that product because you work for them then you should make that clear for the sake of transparency. You have a very different motivation than someone giving an opinion as a customer.

Commercial members normally have a commercial tag. How difficult is it to add one? Not that hard.

MSFS

9 minutes ago, Speedbird 217 said:

What an odd and unprofessional response.

Typical of SI,,,,,,the marketing is slicker than the product...

Eric

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2 hours ago, G-YMML1 said:

Sorry that I continue to bother you with my questions about BATC.

 

If BATC does not hot have an option to select approach/runway different from ATIS reading, may I set a pre-determined flight plan with fixed elements such as departing runway, SID, STAR, approach, arriving runway to avoid any "surprises"?

 

Not possible.

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