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New PMDG update

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From a few short flights, I can see some improvements related to:
 
- Improved flight control handling/feel for all 737 types using PMDG's "fly-by-software" modeling suite.
- Improved control feel in ground effect for all 737 types.
Converted 737 series to use Navigraph's modern database format (ARINC 424 emulated)
- Implementation of Asobo weather "radar" returns on appropriate displays. (shows Asobo layer, is not actually radar)
 
Now, unfortunately, these items are still broken:
 
- Improved taxi handling using lessons learned from 777 development.
- Significant lateral path improvements to leverage navdata capabilities.
- AFDS roll mode control logic improved to leverage lateral path improvements.
 
Look at this approach to KEWR. 
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The same unrealistic banking left and right at the WPT passage remains.
Do they have any quality control measures in place? I don’t understand how they could miss these issues. It’s clear that they are trying to fix things, but I find it hard to believe that the real pilots involved in this project don't notice these problems. Perhaps it is beyond a programmer’s ability to code correctly. It's even more puzzling that their real pilots release videos claiming everything is fine. Something is definitely wrong here, the other developers don't have these issues.

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747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning. 

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  • Indeed. I did a couple of flights tonight and had no real issues. The update is indeed a major improvement over what was already a great addon. There are a couple of minor nitpicks, but nothing that c

  • Stearmandriver
    Stearmandriver

    Well to be fair, I never said it was "across the board superior", I said "comparable", which was in response to you suggesting that if anyone thought the iFly approached the level of PMDG, they must n

  • You are just spending your time flying, not bashing, that's why. 😉

Do you report these issues via their ticket system?

 

David Porrett

Dang, that turn is terrible. That’s with the update?

Eric 

 

 

Some of us still can’t even fly after the update. Nah data is broken for many and also unable to update. Some are getting black screens with the EFB or a spinning wheel. Guess we will see what update or work around they’re able to push.

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Now that the 737 update is out, I wonder if they’re still on track to release the 777F before the end of the month. 

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33 minutes ago, B777ER said:

Dang, that turn is terrible. That’s with the update?

Yes, unfortunately, it is getting worse with each update. Strange enough, is RSR a pilot who doesn't see this? Is he happy with this "progress"?

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25 minutes ago, LRBS said:

Yes, unfortunately, it is getting worse with each update. Strange enough, is RSR a pilot who doesn't see this? Is he happy with this "progress"?

I was going to give her a go but seeing this and the navdata bug, sticking with Fenix.

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Eric 

 

 

12 minutes ago, B777ER said:

I was going to give her a go but seeing this and the navdata bug, sticking with Fenix

Same here.... I loaded the update and had a look around but if turns are still like the OP displayed that is just too bad. I also noticed that after all this time the cockpit door still does not open and the texturing on the entry way is just terrible (I know, not important to flight, it is just a pet peeve of mine -- why can't they animate a cockpit door like Fenix instead of the -- "now to get the the cabin you can just walk straight through the cockpit door" feature.)

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55 minutes ago, LRBS said:

Yes, unfortunately, it is getting worse with each update. Strange enough, is RSR a pilot who doesn't see this? Is he happy with this "progress"?

That’s half mile off track.  Have you tried any others? 

My 800 and 900 don't update navigraph data. Also, tablet was broken and had to reinstall 800 and 900 to fix it, but navigraph is still not updating, stuck at about 80%.

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Did the RNAV20 approach in KGPI and it was very slightly twitchy on the turns (no odd turns to the left before turning right) and it stayed within .01 . Will try the RNAVY29 app into kewr later to see if it has the same problems.

going  to have  to try this  tomorrow see  if  i get the  same  results

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Peter kelberg

Just did the RNAVY29 approach into KEWR. It kept to the leg better than LRBS posted, so I'm not sure what happened. I used clear weather with no wind. I did notice it oddly banked left a bit when it hit JIMLO but it mainly stayed within .01. That being said it did go up to .04 once, as pictured below. Still very slightly twitchy on the turn, but not too bad.

 

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1 minute ago, Kevin_28 said:

Just did the RNAVY29 approach into KEWR. It kept to the leg better than LRBS posted, so I'm not sure what happened. I used clear weather with no wind. I did notice it oddly banked left a bit when it hit JIMLO but it mainly stayed within .01. That being said it did go up to .04 once, as pictured below. Still very slightly twitchy on the turn, but not too bad.

 

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least  it  saves  from me   from  doing it  now  🙂

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Peter kelberg

4 hours ago, LRBS said:
Look at this approach to KEWR. 
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What's also cute is that the ND is claiming "ANP 0.06" while at the same time acknowledging that you're 0.42 miles left of track. 🤷‍♂️

Nerd time: OK, technically the aircraft is required to stay within the ANP only 95% of the time. But that 95% number looks suspiciously like it refers to two standard deviations of a normal distribution (I've never found a reference that actually says this -- does anyone have one?). 0.42 miles then correspond to 14 standard deviations. I've tried calculating the probability of being at or beyond 14 standard deviations, but it's so low that all of the online calculators I've tried simply round it down to zero. And of course, from a practical standpoint, being 0.42 miles off track when the claimed ANP is 0.06 seems pretty bad...

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