December 12, 20241 yr Once you figure it out that is. My biggest problem was, settings did not seem to stick and constant asking me to make new set. Finally I figured out the best way to deal with the new system. First every time you need to modify for any aircraft, create two new profiles. One General and one Aircraft (or plane). They can be copies of another profile that mostly works. Sometimes it is easiest just to delete all settings after creating new profiles, and start from scratch using search to quickly find the menu item. It is actually very quick and it sticks perfectly. Before I didn't not create 2 new profiles and that was messing me up, it seemed the clear command did not work, because I was only clearing one of the profiles not both. You have to learn what the 3 categories are (specific one only works for special aircraft like helicopters with a hoist). It is different but once you get it it really makes a lot of sense. To me at least. It is much more powerful than the 2020 or XP systems, individual curves for each aircraft is really cool. Com GA Pilot, Retired • FS2020 • FS2024 • Xplane 12 • Current Machine: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI• Gaming Desktop Motherboard Intel B760 Chipset • Intel Core i7 (14th Gen) i7-14700 3.40 GHz Processor 64GB RAM • 2 / M.2 SSD 1TB • MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER
December 12, 20241 yr I mean, it's a slight improvement over 2020 but that was also a complete dumpster fire, so that's not hard to improve over. Though I disagree with that general notion that it's good or anywhere near close to being good. I understand the concept of it and got my keys set up on day 1 but it's obnoxious to work with, it's clunky, unreliable, you can't even start a clean slate. It really tests your patience to work with and is just badly designed overall. In my opinion. You say "more powerful than the 2020 or XP systems", do you mean X-Plane? Because I absolutely disagree with that. You can rail on X-Plane all day long but the control set up process in X-Plane is fantastic. The smoothest, easiest and most intuitive process of setting up controls in any flight simulator to date and it also does per-profile as well. That entire control system and design is lightyears ahead of MSFS. [MSI MPG X870E Carbon | 9800X3D (PBO +200Mhz / -20 Offset) | Corsair 64GB DDR5 (Custom Timings) | RTX 4090 Founders Edition (Undervolted) | WD SNX 850X 4TB + 4TB | Antec Flux Pro]
December 12, 20241 yr I agree, although the OP should be prepared to find two problems / limitations: 1) It doesn't always work the same way, meaning that after you successfully setup a given profile and assign it to a given aircraft, and it works during a few flights, sometimes it changes, without reason 😕 2) I don't think it's better than X-Plane's solution, and indeed I find X-Plane's solution much more functional and complete, less the specific controls that we see listed, sometimes inconsistently or badly named in FS 2024... One of the things that is inferior to X-Plane is the fact that axis specific tuning, like curves, null zones, etc.. is inherited by ALL profiles and can't be made specific to each class of aircraft or specific aircraft, while in X-Plane you can also create custom axis curves, dead zones, saturations, ... per aircraft class or specific aircraft, it's easy to use, not cumbersome like the MSFS interface... Edited December 12, 20241 yr by jcomm Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
December 12, 20241 yr It could be good but between the bugs and confusing interface, it isn't hard to see why it is throwing people for a loop. ------------------------- Craig from KBUF
December 12, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Sethos said: I mean, it's a slight improvement over 2020 but that was also a complete dumpster fire, so that's not hard to improve over. Though I disagree with that general notion that it's good or anywhere near close to being good. I understand the concept of it and got my keys set up on day 1 but it's obnoxious to work with, it's clunky, unreliable, you can't even start a clean slate. It really tests your patience to work with and is just badly designed overall. In my opinion. You say "more powerful than the 2020 or XP systems", do you mean X-Plane? Because I absolutely disagree with that. You can rail on X-Plane all day long but the control set up process in X-Plane is fantastic. The smoothest, easiest and most intuitive process of setting up controls in any flight simulator to date and it also does per-profile as well. That entire control system and design is lightyears ahead of MSFS. To me 2020 was logical. 2024 is mind bendingly not
December 13, 20241 yr One thing that is really missing for me is to be able to select my controller and/or keyboard and see what is bound to it, and only show me those commands. flightsim.to - map
December 13, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, salasnet said: One thing that is really missing for me is to be able to select my controller and/or keyboard and see what is bound to it, and only show me those commands. Select “All assigned” in the controller menu and it will show you everything bound to it. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
December 14, 20241 yr On 12/12/2024 at 9:02 PM, JRBarrett said: Select “All assigned” in the controller menu and it will show you everything bound to it. I am not finding the "All assigned" in the Controls configuration. Can you point to me exactly where it is? When I go to the Settings > Controls and click on the Device in the Devices List on the left... where do I click next? All I have is the center area with the Categories, and then the Description with the Hardware Settings on the far right. flightsim.to - map
December 15, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, salasnet said: When I go to the Settings > Controls and click on the Device in the Devices List on the left... where do I click next? Bottom Left. Filters: None. Click that to change it to "Assigned" 9800X3d, 4090, 64 GB DDR5 6000 RAM, 4 TB NVME (2x2), 4K Ultra + Framegen
December 15, 20241 yr I like to to do just views/camera in the sim, then spad.next for all controls and bindings. Seems to work well that way 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
December 15, 20241 yr Conceptually it's better, but it's got some issues & bugs which make it worse than the 2020 implementation for me. [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
December 15, 20241 yr They need an interface/screen that shows all of the presets -- yours and default of course. Not just a left/right > or < 2020 was no better in that respect. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
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