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BATC Expectations

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3 minutes ago, Noel said:

Does BATC look at Simbrief and take its runways from the OFP, or since it now does some traffic control or injecton does it just do what it wants to do based on conditions?  I haven't taken the plunge but think I will very soon.  Talking 2020 right now but 2024 in due time.

It assigns runways based on conditions and favored runways at airports. 

 

 

 

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22 hours ago, AJZip said:

Yes it does.  I think I have mine set at 5.  Sounds modest but when you are approaching a busy airport, 5 aircraft being vectored in gets mighty busy 😉

 

So does this infer 5 is an actual value not a relative value?  so 5 = 5 AI?   For example, with FSHUD I have parked at 50 and active at 50 using AIG and that is 100 AI either parked or airborne. 

How would I mimic that in BATC? 

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54 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

It assigns runways based on conditions and favored runways at airports. 

This isn't totally correct.  in low wind conditions or favorable wind conditions it will prioritize your SB runway.   But if the wind conditions dont meet the local config that would support that runway as being active they will change it.

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15 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

SayIntentions often forgets about the user or thinks he's in a much different state of flight or thinks he's somewhere else etc.)

I have both, SI and BATC and I have not experienced what you just described. In fact its been flawless. But I will say that SI seems to work better in Oceania than Europe and im guessing Europe is where it needs a bit of work.

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16 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I use auto respond, so never have that problem. 

thats not  the issue  bob  is  the  trying  to  push  the  response  in between the chatter  if  you got  alot  of  traffic  going  on   and  trying  to beat  the  next  chatter  to get  your  response in, if your  using  the  button since  you need  to open up  the  gui  and   hover  the  mouse  over  the  option  you  want  whilst  flying  or  taxing  and  trying  to get  in. Now  iam  using  voice  which is  alot  easier  since  i dont  need  to open  up  the  gui  and  all i need  to do is  to push  the  mic   and i get  in  alot  quicker

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the  last 5  minutes  is  interesting  to hear

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On 12/25/2024 at 8:52 AM, Vel said:

I'll try to explain it better Bob... Its not just about an opening in radio traffic. The "push to talk" button goes in and out of availability to press, based on what BATC is doing. There are times where there are indeed gaps in transmission BUT BATC is translating speech (i.e. the reply from the AI traffic) and thats what it says on the button and you cannot press it. Its the time where if it were indeed "push to talk" you would press it but its not available. Its really noticable in heavier traffic. Ive missed descent points (or just had to descend) because I cant get the button to be available long enough to press it...not from other chatter but BATC making the button unavailable while it translates or performs other radio related tasks.

I'll perhaps try reducing my sliders (I have everything on 5) and see if that helps)...or, increase yours to 5 and you'll maybe see what I mean ..😉

 

try using  voice  you find  it  easier  and  you will get  in  quicker in  between  all the  chatter

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I would never want to limit the number of AI planes. I have a massive AIG database, and I would want it running at 100% all the time.

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1 hour ago, pete_auau said:

the  last 5  minutes  is  interesting  to hear

wt* is say intentions atc doing a fslsbs 2.0 ? lol any context

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2 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I would never want to limit the number of AI planes. I have a massive AIG database, and I would want it running at 100% all the time.

The problem I found is not so much how many aircraft are visible (when I use FSLT by itself, I have quite a high number) but, for ATC, I found it is more about the number of instructions and responses coming through to and from each aircraft if you are approaching a busy airport.  This is especially impactful if you are being vectored into a landing approach when waiting for instructions to and from 5 other aircraft also coming in can take a long time, by which time you can have covered a lot of airmiles in, potentially, the wrong direction.   

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I totally understand how that would be a problem. It happened a few times when I was trying to talk to ATC at major airports in P3D. It's just that 100% AI means more to me :smile:

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5 hours ago, michael8 said:

wt* is say intentions atc doing a fslsbs 2.0 ? lol any context

Yeah. I was trying to work that out myself and got no where. 

13 hours ago, nrunning24 said:

This isn't totally correct.  in low wind conditions or favorable wind conditions it will prioritize your SB runway.   But if the wind conditions dont meet the local config that would support that runway as being active they will change it.

That is what I said, wind conditions and favored runways, just like any airport in real life. If the wind conflicts with the favored runway, then ATC changes the runway to suit the wind conditions. 

 

 

 

17 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

It assigns runways based on conditions and favored runways at airports. 

I'm guessing that is what Simbrief does as well.  Have you seen good correlation?

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6 minutes ago, Noel said:

I'm guessing that is what Simbrief does as well.  Have you seen good correlation?

Many times, the recommended runways in Simbrief are not what BATC uses. 

 

 

 

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