5 minutes ago, Kaboki said:

I would be very intrested in that equation:). Im on the fence wether to try it, still waiting for VFR before jumping in though. 

I started using my free premium 50.000 credits today. I started doing this because it sort of annoyed me to see those credits being there and I simply wanted to get rid of them. Never used them before. Basic was good enough for me.

Problem now is... that I do think the premium voices are better then the basic ones, haha! They sound more realistic, accents are better and they speak a bit faster too (something that annoyed me with the basic voices). So I started to make a note of the credits I use during every flight. When my credits are gone I might buy ONE package of extra credits (250.000) and then continue this test. However, I do already think it'll cost me more than I am willing to spend... I am testing this with premium voices for me and the AI, so every communication is premium. I'll post my findings here in the future.

Edited January 12, 20251 yr by mistolip

Without premium voices there are 170+ voices already, wich are really good in my opinion, regional related!

I fly only with them and it's the best I ever had without spending further money for AI voices

Another question, is the AI traffic airliners only or does it have small GA traffic too?

14 minutes ago, Kaboki said:

Another question, is the AI traffic airliners only or does it have small GA traffic too?

for now is only airliners but they said that gonna implement ga traffic when vfr arrive

I've been really impressed with BeyondATC. I've found it adds so much to the immersion and less stress/aggro than doing a flight on VATSIM. Especially with the traffic injection, I've just spent probably an extra 15 minutes post flight just sitting at the gate watching the traffic - there is even a separate map you can download where you can track them!

I have had some issues this weekend though with it not recognising voice and also sometimes not able to communicate at all with the Premium voices. This is usually coupled with an error suggesting it's not able to contact the speech server or words to that effect. Switching back to Basic Voices seems to cure this, but hopefully they can fix this soon as the Premium voices are better - even if you do have to pay a bit.

50 minutes ago, Tom Wright said:

I've been really impressed with BeyondATC. I've found it adds so much to the immersion and less stress/aggro than doing a flight on VATSIM. Especially with the traffic injection, I've just spent probably an extra 15 minutes post flight just sitting at the gate watching the traffic - there is even a separate map you can download where you can track them!

I have had some issues this weekend though with it not recognising voice and also sometimes not able to communicate at all with the Premium voices. This is usually coupled with an error suggesting it's not able to contact the speech server or words to that effect. Switching back to Basic Voices seems to cure this, but hopefully they can fix this soon as the Premium voices are better - even if you do have to pay a bit.

There were some reports of problems with premium servers on the Discord over the weekend, although it must be a regional / ISP-dependent thing because it was fine for me here in Central Europe.
By the way I suggest going to their Discord, the community is huge and they can help/answer many things very quickly

3 hours ago, Kaboki said:

Another question, is the AI traffic airliners only or does it have small GA traffic too?

The traffic data set has basically every aircraft that flew with a transponder on (so not VFR, but small GA or bizjets in IFR yes), so it would mostly depend on whether you have the models for that (AIG is the only one having GA traffic AFAIK).

7 hours ago, Kaboki said:

but if there was a subscription option like SI I would for sure be more intrested. Using premium voices would just be too expensive the way it is now.

But then again if premium voices are that expensive, and BATC devs understand they may get nailed by users who fly a lot such that ultimately they may need to make a subscription price quite high.  I guess you're thinking there would be enough more casual users to offset that.

Looks like it's currently around $0.50 per flight when pro voices are used.  So for me that could get up to as high as $30/month.  Probably best to wait until pricing drops w/ this sort of thing and I'm sure it will.

Edited January 12, 20251 yr by Noel

Is there any indication on when the full retail version (1.0?) may be coming out?  Maybe this year?  Really waiting on this product.

1 hour ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Is there any indication on when the full retail version (1.0?) may be coming out?  Maybe this year?  Really waiting on this product.

No indication. Maybe this year, maybe not (or maybe never because some programs stay in beta forever). But I am not sure why you would want to wait with buying it...? It's very usuable already. What is a 'full retail version' anyway nowadays... Most software is 'early access' or even 'beta' nowadays, regardless of how they call it. MSFS2024 is sold as a full retail version but everyone knows it's EA at best. (Take note that MSFS2024 is the only sim I have installed!)

If you are REALLY waiting for BATC then just get it NOW already.

Edited January 12, 20251 yr by mistolip

3 hours ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Is there any indication on when the full retail version (1.0?) may be coming out?  Maybe this year?  Really waiting on this product.

Yeah like above, don't wait. It might be EA, but for that it's very polished. The Traffic Injection really makes it come to life in my opinion, and the ATC instruction, while not always perfect, is very realistic in most instances.

53 minutes ago, Tom Wright said:

Yeah like above, don't wait. It might be EA, but for that it's very polished. The Traffic Injection really makes it come to life in my opinion, and the ATC instruction, while not always perfect, is very realistic in most instances.

Tom, how does one integrate FSLTL with BATC?

12 hours ago, Kaboki said:

I would be very intrested in that equation:). Im on the fence wether to try it, still waiting for VFR before jumping in though. 

Looks to be around $0.45/flight using the Premium voice option.  If you therefore did 60 flights per month, around $30.

13 minutes ago, Noel said:

Tom, how does one integrate FSLTL with BATC?

Are you asking how to turn on traffic in BATC ? its in options menu in BATC - just turn it on

Edited January 13, 20251 yr by Richard Sennett

29 minutes ago, Richard Sennett said:

Are you asking how to turn on traffic in BATC ? its in options menu in BATC - just turn it on

Someone I think I read stated performance was good when using BATC's injector along with FSLTL models.  I haven't installed BATC yet but checking to see if it's just a case of having FSLTL models installed but not their injector, and turning on traffic in BATC.  Is that all there is to it?  I don't have a lot of performance wiggle room because I don't use FG so every bit of performance I can muster matters.