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January 16th, 2025 MSFS Development Update

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31 minutes ago, MarcG said:

you mean FC24 and yes I'm currently powering my way through League Two with Barrow FC, whilst also enjoying the delights of Hogwarts Legacy (Broom Flight physics surprisingly good, not sure how real they are though!

Apologies for the off topic, but this may be interesting to you. Have a look at the back of the Barrow AFC player shirts. You will see the name CUMBRIA ROOFING ULVERSTON at the top. That is my uncle's roofing company, and I work for him :cool:

Christopher Low

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  • MrBitstFlyer
    MrBitstFlyer

    What ignorance is this?  I, like many, have been successfully using 2024 since a week after release.

  • I applaud Asobo for being the type of company that prioritizes the well-being of it's employees over the relentless pursuit of money.

  • Aviator_2024
    Aviator_2024

    Main problems like VRAM Performance problems are planned for SU2 which is god know when and LOD problems are still under investigation?! Main two problems for FS2024. I am not touching this sim for a

4 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

Apologies for the off topic, but this may be interesting to you. Have a look at the back of the Barrow AFC player shirts. You will see the name CUMBRIA ROOFING ULVERSTON at the top. That is my uncle's roofing company, and I work for him :cool:

HAH that's awesome 😁 I always chose them as they're one of the hardest teams to start off with so it's a great challenge 🙂

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20 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

And history will repeat,

That's what worries me. Aside from the various regressions from 2020 we've already inherited (several of the handcrafted airports, eg FACT, seem to be "systemdisabled" and freeze the sim if activated, for example), and the strong possibility of 2024 SUs breaking working code as well as providing fixes, I suspect we'll all be here going through a similar scenario in 2028, or whenever the next iteration comes along.

Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of 2024 and I've only used 2020 a couple of times since 2024 came out. But it irritates the h*ll out of me a lot of the time as I keep discovering little failures and bugs that just strike me as totally avoidable if they'd been concentrating. I'm not interested in the "behind the scenes" issues or reasons for why it got released in this state, it just contains far too many sloppy little errors.

And I have to say, I will be trying very hard in future not to buy stuff from the Marketplace. I've probably bought well over 1000 addons for 2020, and I have avoided the Marketplace where possible. I've tended to impulse-buy when I see something on a really good offer, or if there's something that's only available on there. Reason not being any sort of anti-MS thing, I just prefer to have my addons more firmly under my control. I've probably got between 50 and 70 addons from MS, and now all of those are in this strange limbo-land with 2024, waiting for MAsobo to sort out how they're going to handle the Marketplace and streaming/downloading issues. Not good.

But meanwhile, I'll enjoy using 2024 for what it's good for (for me), low and slow exploration in areas where the scenery lives up to the pre-publicity (which is by no means everywhere). In such cases it really does live up to the sales pitch.

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

bad language has escaped the swear filter.

Conjures up lovely images of a room full of coders, buttoned up to the max, working their way through all sorts of arcane manuals for "offensive" words.

With an image of Billy Connolly tied up on a bonfire waiting to be lit on the wall.

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4 minutes ago, roland_lfor said:

Do we know already schedules for SU1 and SU2 releases?

Not exactly no, still no word on SU16 for 2020 either but I think we can all guess why that is...!

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4 minutes ago, roland_lfor said:

Do we know already schedules for SU1 and SU2 releases?

Probably sometime after MS/Asobo meet their 2025 quarter budget. So far nobody knows.

38 minutes ago, andy1252 said:

Conjures up lovely images of a room full of coders, buttoned up to the max, working their way through all sorts of arcane manuals for "offensive" words.

Something like Bletchley Park ?

Surely not everybody was kung fu fighting.

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Does anyone when SU 1 will be released,   It seems this update is a huge stumbling block for MSFS2024 developers to move forward.  

Paul Gugliotta

16 minutes ago, paulyg123 said:

Does anyone when SU 1 will be released,   It seems this update is a huge stumbling block for MSFS2024 developers to move forward.

5 posts up.

7 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

This is probably one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read on this forum and I have seen many. Don't know what else to say.

What's truly ridiculous is that an adult would rather some people not see their families for the holidays, just so a game he bought would work just the way he wants it to, right this minute.

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37 minutes ago, Krakin said:

Lo verdaderamente ridículo es que un adulto prefiera que algunas personas no vean a sus familias durante las vacaciones, sólo para que un juego que compró funcione exactamente como él quiere, en este preciso momento

 

I get the feeling that some of you live in an alternative world.

1 hour ago, Aglos77 said:

 

I get the feeling that some of you live in an alternative world.

I certainly try to <grin>

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All horror tales and sour grapes aside...we have to be very thankful MS and Asobo continue to support 2020 while 2024 matures.  I don't pay for them operating servers and I appreciate that!  I've certainly got my money's worth cubed over these 4+ years.   It's so good now w/ the various add-ons to round out the basic package I have no need to install 2024 even though I bought it right before launch.  I look forward to installing some day to revisit GA flying.  Just added BATC on top of SLC and APL and continue having a blast!

Noel

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1 hour ago, Aglos77 said:

 

I get the feeling that some of you live in an alternative world.

Yes, welcome to the real world where some things are more important than how much you enjoy a piece of software meant for entertainment.

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