3 hours ago, LRBS said:

That's something to note, and we need to uncover the secret. So many people are complaining about this issue, and numerous YouTubers are attempting to assist and resolve it without success. Did you try setting up a few profiles for different aircraft, and they never changed after a restart? If so, please share your steps to prevent that issue. Many will appreciate your solution. 

I have one custom profile that is “applied to all aircraft” and “made default”. I named the custom profile “generic”. I have not tried any per-aircraft profiles. That may be something that triggers the problem. 

I have a (Fulcrum) yoke with several buttons, two throttle quadrants, (one of which has several more buttons), and pedals. All the buttons are assigned to various functions, and they do indeed work as intended in all aircraft large and small.

I also have a custom keyboard profile which is derived from the default “2024 Transversal” profile. I removed all default assignments from the numeric keypad and replaced them with assignments for 9 custom camera views. The custom views do automatically get attached to the specific aircraft for which they were created, just as in 2020.

 

 

22 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

I have one custom profile that is “applied to all aircraft” and “made default”. I named the custom profile “generic”. I have not tried any per-aircraft profiles. That may be something that triggers the problem. 

 

Thank you so much. We will give it a go and eliminate the other a/c profiles. 

14 hours ago, kakihara123 said:

The EFB in VR. How can an issue with a new core feature make it into the release build when it can be reproduced with a 100% rate in about 5 minutes, including the launch of the sim?

The unfortunate reality is VR users make up a tiny fraction of the MSFS userbase, and Asobo/MS prioritize it as such. I see where they're coming from, but I'm also not a VR user.

 

9 hours ago, B777ER said:

The flight controls settings not being saved should be a hotfix, yet it's not even listed on their site. 

It's not listed because not enough people have reported the issue for it to show up on the list. I searched the official forums and there are a few reports, and the most popular only has 52 upvotes:

Controller Mapping randomly resets itself to default - Bug Reporting Hub / Hardware & Peripherals - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

Have you created or upvoted any bug report on the issue?

 

5 hours ago, psolk said:

So forgive the ignorance but I thought the 1st update or maybe the 2nd also contained some WASM debug tools.  I "assumed" and I am very good at making an a** of myself naturally so don't often need help that also meant iFly, PMDG and others may have had what they needed to at least begin to troubleshoot their planes in 2024.  

Has anyone heard anything from either of them?  Not sure what other devs were also waiting on the WASM tools or if anyone else has said anything along these lines... 

Someone posted this in the official forum thread linked earlier in this post, presumably the needed functionality will be included with SU1:

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From PMDG RSR
"We have had quite a bit of back-and-forth with Asobo on this topic during the week and we have been advised that a fix has been implemented and that we should get it in a future update to the platform and SDK. We do not have a date for said fix, but given that the next two workweeks are bifurcated by two holidays that are popular in the west, I suspect we will not see the platform updated with our fix until sometime after 06JAN24- and most likely around 14JAN25 if my understanding of the release patterns is approximately accurate."

 

14 hours ago, kakihara123 said:

I generally agree with that, but one glaring issue really can't be explained like this. The EFB in VR. How can an issue with a new core feature make it into the release build when it can be reproduced with a 100% rate in about 5 minutes, including the launch of the sim? I really blame the management here, since this should have been delayed at least until February. Launching the sim in this state right before the holidays was a total failure. 

Hitting the release date was more important than customer satisfaction.  That about sums it up.

1 hour ago, LRBS said:

I wonder what is so different about your system that doesn't have those issues. There are no problems, as I mentioned, with the 2020. I still believe that something is very wrong here when so many people complain all over the internet and in forums about it. That's why I wonder what specific user-to-user issue is affecting so many with the same problem.

As I mentioned earlier, even though I cleaned the USB memory of any previous installations, deleted all the profiles, uninstalled and reinstalled 2024, followed all the tutorials, formatted my PC, and reinstalled everything without any addons that might interfere, I'm at a loss here. As I said, there are three of us with three different computers, and together with others, we are experiencing the same issue. It's not as you mentioned; we lost a joystick profile. It does not remember the settings or the aircraft profiles saved. 

As I asked @JRBarret, I would also like to encourage you to consider that there are some issues with this, and perhaps you all have an idea or solution that could help many of us. 

 

Fixing hardware issue could  be the most frustrating thing ever!

By the way format your hard drive is no longer a thing! The only reason simmers used to format their drive it in the past, is to mark (or erase) bad HDD clusters that could affect some system or program files. With ne SSD age it's no longer the issue! 

If I had hardware trouble right now,  I would focus on OS (Windows 10,11), hardware drivers, hardware tweaking, and bios. Hardware issues often related   drivers issue that may cause compatibility issue with OS. There are two ways to solve it. Keep updating drivers, and keep updating OS ! One of them may fix it. Hardware tweaking like resolving IRQ conflict with to devices rare but still possible

Faulty hardware is also can factor in. Often it's hard to find. But using common sense and elimination method it possible. Bad USB ports do happen!

Finally - the bios issue. Many motherboard are shipped with undiscovered firmware issues. So bios fimware update could unsuspectedly solve some outstanding problems. 

Thank you, gents. We have deleted all the profiles created on two different computers so far. On one, after restarting, all the profiles resurfaced as if nothing had been deleted.

Only after the second attempt, I was able to reset it to default. I think it's a nasty bug related to where and how things are stored or downloaded from the cloud. Even with only one new profile, the issue is still present.

I'm not rejecting the idea of some hardware or bios problems, but to be able to duplicate the same fault on two different computers (like in our specific case) is very questionable. We wait for the other guy to get home and check on his PC within a few days. I'm not convinced that it is PC-related, especially when the MSFS2020, P3D, and XP12 don't show any of these particular problems, such as hardware or bios issues, but only MSFS2024. Call me a hardhead, but I can't explain why only one software does it.

 

Anyhow, we/I express my gratitude for your help. THANK YOU!

5 hours ago, Funky D said:

The unfortunate reality is VR users make up a tiny fraction of the MSFS userbase, and Asobo/MS prioritize it as such. I see where they're coming from, but I'm also not a VR user.

"10-15% of users" is not a tiny fraction, it's a large fraction completely ignored by incompetent amateur developers.

On 1/17/2025 at 10:09 AM, sloppysmusic said:

MSFS Forum : "My favorite sim activity/plane does not work!! Fix this **#@?now!"

AVSIM Forum :"I've spent xxx hours in the sim and I've found an activity /plane that works PERFECTLY. It's now my favorite activity/plane and I love this sim. No going back!" 

Proof that there are usually 2 sides to every story 🤔

I was most looking forward to the Pilatus PC-24 and the Epic Honeywell Avionics. The PC-24 is clearly more bug-riddled than a mangy dog. 

Still, you can make the plane work by not using the AT. 

Or I use another plane. There are plenty of planes that work well. 

What you wont see me do  is complain ad nauseam about basically the same issues, over and over again. 

I don't understand where people get all this energy from to constantly complain. It must be exhausting. 

11 hours ago, tpete61 said:

How is it broken? I'm curious as I use it everyday.

There are a couple of minor annoyances.

Apparently different folks have problems that others don't.

• Performance is massively downgraded compared to 2020.
• EFB isn't working in VR.
• Toolbar isn't working in VR.

There are other issues as well but these are the main ones for me.

 

1 hour ago, Donka said:

• Performance is massively downgraded compared to 2020.
• EFB isn't working in VR.
• Toolbar isn't working in VR.

There are other issues as well but these are the main ones for me.

 

Also the mouse isn't working properly. Really frustrating.

23 hours ago, Los said:

True, but in still as an end user it’s disappointing…

It's dissappointing that developers also get holiday vacations, and not only the two days off they take in the U.S.

Back to the oars you bile slaves! 🙄

4 minutes ago, Farlis said:

It's dissappointing that developers also get holiday vacations, and not only the two days off they take in the U.S.

Back to the oars you bile slaves! 🙄

the state of MSFS24 suggests they were on holiday for most of last year 🤣

46 minutes ago, MarcG said:

the state of MSFS24 suggests they were on holiday for most of last year 🤣

That's not remotely funny. We all can assume they were rushed to release, like it happens so often in this business with publishers that are at the stock market and who are more interested in meeting their quarterlys instead of delivering finished and polished products.

54 minutes ago, Farlis said:

That's not remotely funny.

Yes it is!

1 hour ago, Farlis said:

We all can assume they were rushed to release

Farlis, you took the words right out of my mouth.

and that was exactly my impression after Joerg Neumann's first statements after the problematic release of MSFS 2024. it sounded more like an excuse than a proud announcement since he knew he would have to disappoint many of his loyal fans with their eyes wide shut this time around. back in 2024 he said he was sorry he couldn't attend several aviation and flight sim shows he was invited to because they were too busy with MSFS 2024. didn't exactly sound like "a holiday for most of the year". considering the great sales figures, I am sure he got a nice bonus for MSFS 2020 at least. and the same will ultimately repeat for MSFS 2024.

Edited January 18, 20251 yr by turbomax