23 minutes ago, Fielder said:

A lot of people seem to be buying the 4070 Super. The 4070 Super Ti has 16GB of memory compared to the Super's 12. I bought the regular 4070 because it was smaller and fit into my small case and draws less power (my psu is 600 watts and it would be a bear to remove from the small case).

I got my Twin Edge Super and fit it into my Micro ATX case. Chose it for features vs price. Higher VRAM than other models too.

4 minutes ago, SetSpeed said:

the terrain is washed out,

You need to explain what you mean by this as it is a term used for a multitude of graphical anomalies.

2024 graphics are superb, so yes, you are doing something wrong. Perhaps some screen shots so we can see the issue?

In real life, in non snowing climates during the winter, the terrain's appearance can be said to look washed out. 2024 has seasons. I don't like washed out graphics and so I click to change the month before every flight.

Edited February 21, 20251 yr by Fielder

8 hours ago, El Diablito said:

Forgive me, I'm just trying to work out why people are saying 2024 is head and shoulders above 2020 visually and you're telling me that the trees, rocks and dirt make it so. Not a very strong argument is it? I mean, it would need to be a drastic change in visuals to make it seem like 2024 was worth the furore. I think telling someone who flys thousands of feet up in the air that the latest sim is miles better visually because they upgraded dirt, is a little silly. Can we be honest here and just say there isnt much difference between the 2 sims?

Objection Your Honor, argumentative!

I fly airliners more than GA close to the ground. I still think 2024 is visually much improved vs 2020 due to the clouds, the improved lighting model, the apron and taxiways, and the raytraced shadows. Is it "heads and shoulders" better? I guess not - it's an evolution, not a revolution. 2020 looks awesome as well. 

Interestingly, the terrain textures look much sharper in SU1 - don't know what they did to achieve this, but I think the difference is significant. 

Close to the ground, I would say that the change is almost revolutionary. You rarely get to appreciate this in an airliner though, unless you deliberately do a controlled crash into something like Mount Rainier. Right, @Noel?

7 hours ago, fsiscool said:

@MrBitstFlyer made a great video recently of 2024 and I was so free to take some screenshots of the same scenes in 2020. I think you will find out which one is the newer even when I don't put a label on it

1 and 4 is 2024, right? If I'm wrong this is going to be embarrassing 🙂

5 hours ago, El Diablito said:

HAVE YOU SEEN THE STONESSS or the TREEEEES? WHAT ARE YOU, STOOPID? OH, YOURE ONE OF THOSE TYPES.

Have a good weekend, guys, and enjoy your flying

Thanks! 😀

4 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

clouds depiction in live weather: there are conflicting reports here of course, but to me it definitely is overall improved especially the clouds density and them not being as "see through" as they were in 2020, more variety rather than cumulus-overload, and also much less volcanic ash looks which used to occur under certain lighting conditions and low sun in 2020

I agree. There are also changes to the cloud color. They appear to be more naturally white vs the yellowish tint in 2020. The volcanic ash clouds seem to be few and far between in 2024 - and when I do encounter a specimen, it doesn't seem as bad. 

Re: the repetitive cloud pattern that @Noel describes - I don't think I've noticed this. 

Edited February 21, 20251 yr by Cpt_Piett

52 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Re: the repetitive cloud pattern that @Noel describes - I don't think I've noticed this. 

I've seen this in ASFS, but never with default.

2024 is the first sim where clouds seem to tower over you when you're on the ground.

So far, for me, I'm not very fond of this new rendering method.  I see why some like it as it diverts from the worst parts of 2020's but to me, honestly, I think 2020's atmosphere and clouds are nicer to look at and fly thru.  In some ways it seems they are even less dense when viewing up close.  I feel for them trying to work this tech and make something really nice out of it.  I've often wondered if it might not have been better to maximally optimize 2D sprite based clouds where you have far better control over sharp edges, density, shape, etc.  Take them out to the horizon, and perhaps there are ways to help offset their rotating orientation to the viewer behavior.  Damian of HF i believe said he tried to make a hybrid model to perhaps create much better cirrus or what have you but didn't pan out for some reason.  

18 minutes ago, Noel said:

but to me, honestly, I think 2020's atmosphere and clouds are nicer to look at and fly thru

I think we've already agreed that it's all about perception and preferences. IMO 2024 is considerably better in terms of the atmosphere and cloud rendering. 

18 minutes ago, Noel said:

I've often wondered if it might not have been better to maximally optimize 2D sprite based clouds where you have far better control over sharp edges, density, shape, etc

Care to elaborate on  "2D sprite based clouds"? I've no idea what this is. 

....

For some reason, after the SU1 update today (AIRAC cycle?) - default live historical weather is not working. So I've resorted to ASFS live weather. I tend to use default live/historical weather nowadays with AS in passive mode. In 2020 I mostly used full on AS active live/historical. But in 2024 I think the live weather gives a realistic enough representation of the weather

...

Isn't SU1 supposed to go live soon?

Edited February 21, 20251 yr by Cpt_Piett

15 minutes ago, Noel said:

  I've often wondered if it might not have been better to maximally optimize 2D sprite based clouds where you have far better control over sharp edges, density, shape, etc.

Ewwwww absolutely not! Leave that in the past.

7 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

18 minutes ago, Noel said:

but to me, honestly, I think 2020's atmosphere and clouds are nicer to look at and fly thru

I think we've already agreed that it's all about perception and preferences. IMO 2024 is considerably better in terms of the atmosphere and cloud rendering. 

I see such a big improvement to clouds types, Cloud rendering, turbulence, colour temperature and lighting in 2024!

4 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I see such a big improvement to clouds types, Cloud rendering, turbulence, colour temperature and lighting in 2024!

Indeed! It can be quite spectacular - I keep encountering "wow" moments. 

Edited February 21, 20251 yr by Cpt_Piett

In case anyone wants to post example pix that they think make the point about 2024's graphics, I've created a thread in the screenshots forum for that purpose (and started it off)

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/665099-fs-2024-amazing-graphics-see-msfs-20202024-forum/

 

Edited February 21, 20251 yr by andy1252
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I agree, for me the clouds, color temperature of the sky and lighting just really take the cake. I've had quite a few wow moments. I fly GA and tubeliners so I see a mixture in the new sim. I will say I am leaning toward airliners though as the GA flight tend to make my computer rather warm.