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X-Plane 12.2 Beta 1 is out

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13 hours ago, GoranM said:

Ben Supnik once said he would NEVER recommend anyone run X-Plane with all sliders to the right.  Regardless of system specs.

You may want to take what Ben says with a large grain of salt! Ben once told me it was impossible to have 3D rain effect with my flight deck, yet here we have it running just fine.
 

 

Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings

                Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME                    One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck

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    Some screenshots of this Beta from the org.  

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    2 more 'Atmospheric shadow'  

  • Didn't take long for the first person to come in here posting something wrong...with a BETA.   Maybe I can rephrase your post, @efis007 "I downloaded it, understanding it was the first

10 hours ago, jcomm said:

I honestly don't think that's the case there ... I did see this effect too. Anyway, just like many stuff in flight simulation, I prefer to not bother with such details when the overall experience is so enriching ...

 

Only thing I noticed is that they are a bit sharp on top, if that was softened up a bit, I wouldn't think anything of those clouds.

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1 hour ago, efis007 said:

Absolutely no criticism.

Such B$ in light of previous statements:

On 4/5/2025 at 10:19 AM, efis007 said:

graphics completely ruined by those camera overexposure effects

 

1 hour ago, efis007 said:

I am 62 years old

Yeah, no. You certainly don't sound this age. But those screenshots do look pretty good.

Friendly reminder: WHITELIST AVSIM IN YOUR AD-BLOCKER. Especially if you're on a modern CPU that can run a flight simulator well. These web servers aren't free...

Hey, first time doing a night flight in 12.2... Noticed something I didn't seem to notice before. Maybe I just don't remember. Did aircraft always exhibit these "light spheres" around lights at night? Specifically, look at NAV lights. The green and red "spheres" are a little... overdone? Take a look. This is Toliss A321. 

 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/owcP86FMC6MmQ4zD7

Interesting. Second crash in an hour with Toliss A321... Here is the last bit of Log... 

 

0:50:14.699 I/SCN: DSF load time: 31528 for file Custom Scenery/Global_Forests_v2/Earth nav data/+60+080/+68+081.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:50:14.781 I/SCN: DSF load time: 97399 for file Custom Scenery/Global_Forests_v2/Earth nav data/+70+080/+70+081.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:50:15.819 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1130246 for file Global Scenery/X-Plane 12 Global Scenery/Earth nav data/+60+080/+68+081.dsf (292378 tris, 6 skipped for -232.2 m^2)
0:50:16.276 I/SCN: DSF load time: 32479 for file Custom Scenery/Global_Forests_v2/Earth nav data/+60+080/+69+081.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:50:16.361 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1587031 for file Global Scenery/X-Plane 12 Global Scenery/Earth nav data/+70+080/+70+081.dsf (381006 tris, 16 skipped for -3128.7 m^2)
0:50:17.186 I/SCN: DSF load time: 876755 for file Global Scenery/X-Plane 12 Global Scenery/Earth nav data/+60+080/+69+081.dsf (236150 tris, 21 skipped for -6941.9 m^2)
0:50:12.027 G64:  core: Run: [OnSceneryLoaded]
--=={This application has crashed because of the plugin: }==--
(Art controls are modified.)
--=={FILE: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\X-Plane 12\Log_ATC.txt}==--

 

it says Art controls are modified. Makes me wonder what plugin. Could it be Toliss A321? Or perhaps Global Forests? I am gonna retry with Global Forests disabled. I don't have XP Map Enhancement running at all. Plugins are Avitab, Terrain Radar, Landing Rate (via Lua), Better Pushback, and that's it. Yesterday LevelUp and Zibo were all flying fine for hours without crashes. 

@blingthinger When I wrote "Not all pilots want to see their graphics completely ruined" I wasn't referring to the clouds, but to the "eye autoexposure" effect that in this photo completely ruined (overexposed/blinded) the external view, the runway disappeared in a blanket of white light.

A330-2025-04-05-00-05-59-2.jpg

Making the effect an Option doesn't seem like a bad idea to me.
If user X wants blinding overexposed graphics, he will enable the special effect from the menu.
If user Y doesn't want blinding overexposed graphics, he will disable the special effect from the menu.
This solution would relieve the user of the responsibility of clumsily fiddling with the art controls to get rid of them (as I am now forced to do because I have no other choice).

 

 

[Pc Intel i3-4160 3,6 GHz, 8 GB di RAM, GeForce RTX-3060 12 GB, Win10 Home 64 bit]
 

8 minutes ago, efis007 said:

I wasn't referring to the clouds

You really think that was the point of my comment? How old are you again?

You made broad-stroking, disparaging statements that had zero substantiation other than a pic that you repeatedly refused to provide full ability for others to recreate. And like I said earlier, even if your pic is valid, you've identified the 1% situation that in no way represents the rest of that new feature. Hardly a majestic feature request.

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Maya says Hi to everyone, he can´t post here right now for some odd reason, but his message regarding the pixelated clouds that @efis007 experienced is:

"The pixelated cloud issue is known, probably not a lot of people experience it because it depends heavily on the light angle and the shape of the cloud, it's planned to be fixed but unfortunately no ETA yet
Cirrus and clouds with flat bottoms that lit from below (like in sunset / sunrise) are affected the worst"

22 hours ago, efis007 said:

You just confirmed that you "fans"

In the past I repeatedly and openly discussed X-Plane issues related to: visuals, flight models, weather, scenery, lighting, etc., (latest case in point: the dark cockpit issue in XP12.1 and before, which I never denied and indeed agreed with you on), so I probably reported and discussed X-Plane issues in more areas than you ever did, so don't call me a "fan". Just as I never called you a "troll", I just said that the attitude in your past posts can make you look like a troll for other users.

Anyway, I reckon discussions like these are boring for other users. I'll leave it here and go back discussing XP12.2.

Edited by Murmur

"Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".

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8 hours ago, efis007 said:

Goran I would like to clarify one thing, I am not a newbie in simulation, I am 62 years old, I have been doing simulation since the dawn of PC simulators (FS4 and all the rest), and for community passion I have designed and created free cockpits and planes for FS9 and various environmental addons for both FS9, but also for Xplane….

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Your age means very little to me when I try to help. I’ve been into flight sims since FS5 and I’ve been making add ons, full time, in X-Plane since 2009. I knew you were slightly older than myself, though. As a slightly more senior person to myself, and one who made add ons for free, I would’ve expected you to come across as more understanding when it comes to problems with a flight sim. The entire thread was an announcement thread. Not a “post your problems in the new beta” thread. I’ve said it before, if you have problems, make a new thread. You won’t be taking up internet space. Posting 2 images, with zero context, does very little to get you help with your problem. At the very least, you could just post the problem and be courteous about it. 
We’re all here to help each other. It has nothing to do with “defending” Laminar. 
And as you can see, when you simply post details about the problem, with full context, you have help almost immediately. 
if you want respect, be respectful. 
On top of Jans post, I recommend that you have a 2nd install of X-plane with no add ons and no scenery for testing purposes. 

Edited by GoranM

To follow up on the recent two crashes with Toliss A321, I am on attempt #3 and no crash this time. I disabled Global Forests. Wonder if that's what cured the problem. I may be flying on vanilla scenery for the foreseeable future. 🙂

3 minutes ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

To follow up on the recent two crashes with Toliss A321, I am on attempt #3 and no crash this time. I disabled Global Forests. Wonder if that's what cured the problem. I may be flying on vanilla scenery for the foreseeable future. 🙂

I've had several flights with Toliss and Global Forests with no crashes.  Might want to check something else.

Ryan

 

 

 

1 minute ago, rjack1282 said:

I've had several flights with Toliss and Global Forests with no crashes.  Might want to check something else.

Hmmm interesting... Well, I am not experiencing any more of them for now. Same route, attempt #3. 

47 minutes ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

Hmmm interesting... Well, I am not experiencing any more of them for now. Same route, attempt #3. 

AAAAAND CTD on taxiing to the stand. Something is up. May be a Toliss issue. Was flying Boeings all day yesterday with zero problems. Hmmmm.

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