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X-Plane 12.2 Beta 1 is out

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Just now, BostonJeremy77 said:

Do you guys think I should report this to LR? 

Would you like it fixed if its an issue???

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  • flying_carpet
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    Some screenshots of this Beta from the org.  

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    2 more 'Atmospheric shadow'  

  • Didn't take long for the first person to come in here posting something wrong...with a BETA.   Maybe I can rephrase your post, @efis007 "I downloaded it, understanding it was the first

3 minutes ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

Here is an interesting observation. Do you guys think I should report this to LR? 

Take a look at the top of the clouds at cruise of FL360. There is definitely some kind of a flat "cut off" that's happening. Has anyone seen this? 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZCZnMPN899isGYEaA

Guess you never seen the anvil effect at altitude! You may want to fly during a storm.

Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings

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14 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

box effect

https://developer.x-plane.com/2025/04/12-2-0-chockingly-good-fun/

"Cloud formations/Square clouds (This has been a persistent thorn in our sides, and won’t be addressed in 12.2.0. However, we are planning more improvements to this later this year)"

Friendly reminder: WHITELIST AVSIM IN YOUR AD-BLOCKER. Especially if you're on a modern CPU that can run a flight simulator well. These web servers aren't free...

43 minutes ago, GoranM said:

I have a few things to say about this.

The first thing I noticed is you have outdated graphics drivers.  572.83 was released 3 weeks ago.  You're on  572.70.  This may seem trivial, but it has resolved many issues in the past with other people. 

As far as drivers, the latest cause black screen popups at times with my 4090s, so I am forced to use the previous set.

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35 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

This photo will give a better view of the box effect. I also run X-Plane 12 with full sliders right, only things not selected are the boxes for boats, parked aircraft and 3D veg. 

You'll also note the strange mountain looking clouds as well.

Ben Supnik once said he would NEVER recommend anyone run X-Plane with all sliders to the right.  Regardless of system specs.  I have a fully maxed out MacBook Pro M4 Max.  And my sliders are nowhere near yours, and everything in the sim is looking as perfect as I want it to.  I tried maxing everything out when I first got my MBP, and I was getting weird artefacts and some shimmering.  Cameron, at X-Aviation, gave me his recommended settings, and I've locked them in.

Am I saying your settings might be producing these weird artefacts?  Yes.  Could it be some faulty code in the clouds?  Again, yes.  

In all likelihood, this could very well be a bug.  If it is, your best course of action is filing a bug report, providing as much detail as possible to reproduce what you're seeing.  And ALWAYS include a log file.  Even if they don't ask for it, the log file is where the money is.  

For the record, the closest I've seen to the "mountain cloud" in X-Plane 12.2, is a 2 step cloud.  But my flying is limited to SCIP, so it stands to reason I wouldn't see that many clouds.  Tbh with you, I've seen step clouds outside my office window, so it wouldn't be anything I haven't seen before.  

25 minutes ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

Here is an interesting observation. Do you guys think I should report this to LR? 

The cut off at the top?  Absolutely report that.  Include the screenshot and the log file.  They could be anvil clouds, but they look a little too sharp at the cutoff for my liking.

@efis007 it's obviously your choice to not post a log file and steps to reproduce your problem.  So I'm merely guessing that your problem is due to your low spec PC.  Your graphics card is far from the issue.  But your CPU and RAM is bottlenecking your performance, and could very easily be causing your problem of grainy clouds.  

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16 minutes ago, blingthinger said:

https://developer.x-plane.com/2025/04/12-2-0-chockingly-good-fun/

"Cloud formations/Square clouds (This has been a persistent thorn in our sides, and won’t be addressed in 12.2.0. However, we are planning more improvements to this later this year)"

Hi,

Good to know it's going to be looked at later this year.

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9 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

As far as drivers, the latest cause black screen popups at times with my 4090s, so I am forced to use the previous set.

The first thing Laminar will tell you, if you choose to file a report, is to update your graphics drivers.  So for now, wait until the black popups issue is resolved, and revisit the issue at a later date when the problem goes away with a new X-Plane update or nvidia update.  I'd still recommend having a "test" version of X-Plane 12 on your PC for sandbox purposes.

Edited by GoranM

2 hours ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

Here is an interesting observation. Do you guys think I should report this to LR? 

Take a look at the top of the clouds at cruise of FL360. There is definitely some kind of a flat "cut off" that's happening. Has anyone seen this? 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZCZnMPN899isGYEaA

Yes, please do. I have already reported 2 bug-reports about the clouds-shapes that appeared in some specific situations. The more bug-reports, the better.

Edit: just saw your comment after having sent my answer. Glad to hear that you could report it.

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i9 12900k, RTX 3090, 32GB RAM

I honestly don't think that's the case there ... I did see this effect too. Anyway, just like many stuff in flight simulation, I prefer to not bother with such details when the overall experience is so enriching ...

3 hours ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

Guess you never seen the anvil effect at altitude! You may want to fly during a storm.

 

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2 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

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Don't delete your post.  Say what you want to say.

11 hours ago, GoranM said:

efis007 it's obviously your choice to not post a log file and steps to reproduce your problem.  So I'm merely guessing that your problem is due to your low spec PC.  Your graphics card is far from the issue.  But your CPU and RAM is bottlenecking your performance, and could very easily be causing your problem of grainy clouds.

Goran I would like to clarify one thing, I am not a newbie in simulation, I am 62 years old, I have been doing simulation since the dawn of PC simulators (FS4 and all the rest), and for community passion I have designed and created free cockpits and planes for FS9 and various environmental addons for both FS9, but also for Xplane.
All for free and only to help simmers have the most beautiful simulator possible at the price of a simple "Thank you".
Just to give you an idea, inside my PC I have saved thousands of (real) photographs of "sky environment" in every possible conformation and situation, plus thousands of "sky textures" created from scratch by me with photoshop starting from the year 2004.
I think that no one else has a similar collection at home like mine, much less has ever designed so many sky textures to be used to improve simulators.
So know that when I speak of "sky", "lighting", "shadows", etc etc, I know very well what I am talking about.
This is not a criticism I'm making.
Absolutely no criticism.
I'm telling you this because I have the impression that you (and someone else) don't have the faintest idea of who you're dealing with or maybe you think you're talking to a kid who doesn't know how to read and interpret an xplane LOG file.
And anyway, if you really insist, I'll give you the fresh fresh LOG I made today in which, with v12.2, I took some splendid photographs...

Cessna-172-SP-2025-04-06-17-38-40.jpg

Cessna-172-SP-2025-04-06-17-15-59.jpg

Cessna-172-SP-2025-04-06-17-14-51.jpg

Unfortunately the pixelated clouds problem reappeared (it was also in v12.1, as I already reported).
Is it a serious thing?
Absolutely not.
But the problem is there.

Cessna-172-SP-2025-04-06-17-22-40.jpg

From what I have seen in my tests, it seems that this problem only occurs with real weather, it does not occur systematically every time, and it is very random and casual.
The anomaly occurs at sunrise and sunset with the Sun very low and clouds in front.
I am not the only one who has documented it, there are other users who have seen and photographed it (and I doubt that these users have identical hardware to mine).
Here are the screenshot links.
h-ttps://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/329171-xp1220b1-is-available/&page=9#findComment-2893577
h-ttps://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/329171-xp1220b1-is-available/&page=11#findComment-2893742

I also made a short video showing the problem.
Please download here: 
https://mega.nz/file/htR0RIjb#JUDxU6DaiZC0jpGTbceH8K9PYpfLjh1A231Mu2NZ4sw

And finally here is the LOG, there is nothing abnormal that can justify the pixelated clouds, I'm sure it's an xplane problem.
https://mega.nz/file/B1wkAABC#QGNKWlsSqvFEOQSwayOmEPNXTBYc_eW_bVxbD57STxI

 

[Pc Intel i3-4160 3,6 GHz, 8 GB di RAM, GeForce RTX-3060 12 GB, Win10 Home 64 bit]
 

10 minutes ago, efis007 said:

the pixelated clouds problem reappeared (it was also in v12.1, as I already reported).

Very nice shots!

There are some problems with draw-order related to clouds - Laminar is working on them.

As the pixelated cloud effect is not widely reported, it could also be due to some setting in your Nvidia control panel, maybe due to a texture or anisotropic filtering setting you have set up in it.

Your hardware is within the minimum requirements for X-Plane 12, with your RAM especially being on the low side, but that should not affect the pixelation effect you see, in my opinion - and your GPU is fine.

 

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