April 22, 20251 yr From their Discord Page: APL is not in active development, and is currently provided as-is. APL was born as a passion project for Ovi, the developer, and please understand that this is a one-person side project. Right now Ovi is busy with real-life happenings, and is not around much. This means there is no active development and there are no plans to change anything about the app any time soon. The Discord server is currently monitored by a team of community volunteer moderators (like myself), we did not make APL how it is, and we have no way of changing any of it, so all we can do is explain how it works. This space is provided so you can log suggestions for some day in the future, if/when Ovi has time for APL again.
April 22, 20251 yr Thanks Bob! This explains why there have been zero updates for ages! Looks like its dead in the water... Are there alternatives to this? Cheers i9 13900KF @ 5.5Ghz | MoBo MSI PRO Z690-A WiFi | Corsair Vengeance Black RGB RS 64gb DDR4 3200MHz | MSI GeForce RTX 5090 Vanguard SOC 32GB | MP33 Pro 1TB M.2-2280 NVME SSD for OS | Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" 4TB SSD SATA2 | Samsung 990 PRO 2TB | Corsair RM1000X 2021 1300W 80 Plus Gold PSU | Antec Dark Fleet DF700 Flux Gaming Case | Win 11 home | Samsung 65" 4K TV | G512 Keyboard | Razer Basilisk V2 Mouse | WinCtrl URSA MINOR 32 Throttle Metal / 32 PAC Metal | WinCtrl Ursa Minor Sidestick |Velocity One Rudder | MiniCockpit FCU and EFIS | WinCtrl MCDU | Stream Deck XL | Tobii Eye Tracker | Pimax Crystal Light | Doug
April 22, 20251 yr That's a shame, honestly my only gripe with APL right now is I want a range slider for generating schedules.
April 22, 20251 yr Commercial Member 22 minutes ago, vonduck said: Thanks Bob! This explains why there have been zero updates for ages! Looks like its dead in the water... Are there alternatives to this? Cheers Somewhat of an alternative: https://iflyschedules.com/ 14 minutes ago, Lucky38i said: That's a shame, honestly my only gripe with APL right now is I want a range slider for generating schedules. iFly Schedules has a range slider for generating schedules 🙂 Edited April 22, 20251 yr by iFlySimX Discord | YouTube | iFly Schedules 34" Odyssey OLED G8 175Hz | 3440X1440 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB | G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 | Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case
April 22, 20251 yr Author 12 minutes ago, vonduck said: Thanks Bob! This explains why there have been zero updates for ages! Looks like its dead in the water... Are there alternatives to this? Cheers Yeah, there are problems with it that never seem to be fixed, affecting scores when the pilot does nothing wrong. I have well over a thousand flights, but once you fly it for awhile, getting a perfect score on every flight is pretty easy. I think I will just go back to flying my VA.
April 22, 20251 yr I finally gave up on it a few weeks ago, that and GSX, thankfully out of both of those now. APL was useful but couldn't stand the route scheduler, the lame cruise pause penalty, the poor evaluation of landing quality vis a vis scoring and similar issues with other scoring components, and the fact if one is in a hurry and has to shut down the sim and forgets to shut down APL first the shut down hangs. I valued it for a few years though and sorry Ovi has had to divert attention away from his project. Right now Self Loading Cargo is doing what I need it to do for pushback so could lose GSX with its jerky animated frame-stealing zombie PAX, lame pushback routines where one is pushed haywire and suddenly spins 180 degrees, with its ground crew walking thru equipment and walls, etc. I miss a few features of it for sure and I hope someone comes up with a diff approach some day as GSX has no other real competition that I know of. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
April 22, 20251 yr The only problem I have with APL is that it has become quite boring, same schedules all the time don't matter how many times you finish your current schedule and regenerate them it always comes back with same 2 o 3 airports, so I've decided to stop using it and instead fly around the world. Edited April 22, 20251 yr by CarlosF Windows 11 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Asus Prime Z690 | i7 12700KF HT | DeepCool LS520 SE | MSI 5070 Ti Ventus OC | 64GB G.Skill XMP II | Lian Li 216 LANCOOL RGB | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alfa - Bravo - Charlie | MSFS 2024 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Curved 27" MSI | JBL Quantum 810
April 22, 20251 yr I've been curious about this one that's "in development" on JustFlight's website. Might be something to fill the APL void? Though who knows when it'll be out. https://www.justflight.com/in-development/fly-the-line-short-haul-edition
April 22, 20251 yr Author 34 minutes ago, iFlySimX said: Somewhat of an alternative: https://iflyschedules.com/ iFly Schedules has a range slider for generating schedules 🙂 I just signed up for this, going to give it a try.
April 22, 20251 yr Commercial Member 12 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I just signed up for this, going to give it a try. Let me know if you need anything on Discord, always happy to help! I try to listen and implement feedback the best that I can. Keep in mind that I am a solo developer though 🙂 Discord | YouTube | iFly Schedules 34" Odyssey OLED G8 175Hz | 3440X1440 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB | G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 | Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case
April 22, 20251 yr 27 minutes ago, Dermot McClusky said: I've been curious about this one that's "in development" on JustFlight's website. Might be something to fill the APL void? Though who knows when it'll be out. https://www.justflight.com/in-development/fly-the-line-short-haul-edition Imo APL comes closer design-wise to my ideal of a line-oriented flying app. Sunwest was the closest I’ve seen to what I’d personally try to design, where it would build pairings and trips and run a very rudimentary monthly bid. Great concept, but not easy to do for more than one airline. APL feels stale after a time. Once you can get accepted at every major airline there’s no mystery left
April 22, 20251 yr I gave up on APL months ago,now im enjoying my flight sim more than ever,no more being penalised for ridiculous things,well and truly binned for me,i will not be returning.
April 22, 20251 yr Newsky looks not too bad... a virtual airline scenario with flights and techniques that actually matter... Vatsim might be worth another look - although sme of the ATC is less than desirable at times... Will have a look also at iFLysimx i9 13900KF @ 5.5Ghz | MoBo MSI PRO Z690-A WiFi | Corsair Vengeance Black RGB RS 64gb DDR4 3200MHz | MSI GeForce RTX 5090 Vanguard SOC 32GB | MP33 Pro 1TB M.2-2280 NVME SSD for OS | Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" 4TB SSD SATA2 | Samsung 990 PRO 2TB | Corsair RM1000X 2021 1300W 80 Plus Gold PSU | Antec Dark Fleet DF700 Flux Gaming Case | Win 11 home | Samsung 65" 4K TV | G512 Keyboard | Razer Basilisk V2 Mouse | WinCtrl URSA MINOR 32 Throttle Metal / 32 PAC Metal | WinCtrl Ursa Minor Sidestick |Velocity One Rudder | MiniCockpit FCU and EFIS | WinCtrl MCDU | Stream Deck XL | Tobii Eye Tracker | Pimax Crystal Light | Doug
April 22, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, iFlySimX said: Somewhat of an alternative: https://iflyschedules.com/ iFly Schedules has a range slider for generating schedules 🙂 Does it track flight and evaluate your flight performance? Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
April 22, 20251 yr As long as the servers don't suddenly go down, I'm still very happy with APL. The schedules are sometimes a bit strange, but I can solve that with charters. Simply flying in the simulator without progression has become too boring for me.
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