September 6, 2025Sep 6 On 5/18/2025 at 1:08 PM, Fiorentoni said: It does take that into account, accepting +/-1. So 14L would be accepted in that case. In your case the bug is probably with the new airport ops introduced specifically for EDDK. This will be fixed soon A fix still coming soon? I couldn't use BATC at EDDK today.
September 6, 2025Sep 6 On 5/13/2025 at 3:53 AM, SierraHotel BSc said: I use BATC with every flight and have done since its release. I fly every day, sometimes twice, and I have never had any problems with the AI traffic program apart from an odd stutter, which has slowly improved with every update. I'm running the experimental version, which is updated on a regular basis. Did you know that there are three separate versions of BATC you can run? The Vulcan version, DX11 version and the OpenGL version, use whichever gives you the best performance. Oh I didn't know that. I wouldn't have a clue as to which version would improve performance. Good to know, thanks. I bet if I read their manual I would have know that. Then again, I usually dive into a plane without reading it first haha. Which version do you use? 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
September 7, 2025Sep 7 My issues with BATC mainly relate to how it deals with vectors. For instance after leaving an uncontrolled airport and subsequently contacting BATC to get an IFR clearance it frequently gives nonsense vectors well away from the magenta line. The same thing can happen when being vectored during arrival particularly if you are a bit tardy in responding to an initial vector instruction as BATC seems to lose track of where you are. You can also get yourself into a bit of bother when there is a 90 deg turn onto final - if you wait for BATC to tell you to make the turn it is easy to overshoot and then you are on your own. It also seems that you can get an instruction like "advise when established" even when not on a localiser intercept course and still some distance from the destination airport. When that happens you will hear nothing more from BATC until you have got your self established on the localiser. Bruce Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
September 8, 2025Sep 8 22 hours ago, brucewtb said: My issues with BATC mainly relate to how it deals with vectors. For instance after leaving an uncontrolled airport and subsequently contacting BATC to get an IFR clearance it frequently gives nonsense vectors well away from the magenta line. The same thing can happen when being vectored during arrival particularly if you are a bit tardy in responding to an initial vector instruction as BATC seems to lose track of where you are. You can also get yourself into a bit of bother when there is a 90 deg turn onto final - if you wait for BATC to tell you to make the turn it is easy to overshoot and then you are on your own. It also seems that you can get an instruction like "advise when established" even when not on a localiser intercept course and still some distance from the destination airport. When that happens you will hear nothing more from BATC until you have got your self established on the localiser. Bruce I gave up on BATC for precisely this reason. Almost every flight ended up with nonsensical vectoring that just ruined the whole experience. While FAR from perfect, I’ve found SA AI does a pretty decent job of vectoring, even if sometimes it leaves you a little high or gives you quite sporty intercepts, it’s always manageable.
September 8, 2025Sep 8 On 9/6/2025 at 9:02 PM, Lima India said: A fix still coming soon? I couldn't use BATC at EDDK today. It‘s on the devs‘ list, that was confirmed, but whether it‘s soon or not I can‘t tell. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
September 8, 2025Sep 8 On 9/6/2025 at 10:38 PM, brucewtb said: My issues with BATC mainly relate to how it deals with vectors. For instance after leaving an uncontrolled airport and subsequently contacting BATC to get an IFR clearance it frequently gives nonsense vectors well away from the magenta line. The same thing can happen when being vectored during arrival particularly if you are a bit tardy in responding to an initial vector instruction as BATC seems to lose track of where you are. You can also get yourself into a bit of bother when there is a 90 deg turn onto final - if you wait for BATC to tell you to make the turn it is easy to overshoot and then you are on your own. It also seems that you can get an instruction like "advise when established" even when not on a localiser intercept course and still some distance from the destination airport. When that happens you will hear nothing more from BATC until you have got your self established on the localiser. Bruce What I do is just ignore any vectoring by BATC, on approach. I just fly the star, and when I get on final, I always get a clearance to land.
September 8, 2025Sep 8 Another BATC bashing thread i think its fantastic never had a problem with it. Some troll or another company no doubt trying to give BATC a bad name in my opinion. RYZEN 7 5800X3D EIGHT CORE 4.5GHZ, CORSAIR CMK64GX4M2E3200C16 VENGEANCE LPX 64GB XFX AMD Radeon RX 9070XT (16368 MB) MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI Samsung U32J59x (DisplayPort) [31.5" VA LCD] Seagate FireCuda 520 SSD ZP1000GM30002 (ITB)WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 (1TB)
September 8, 2025Sep 8 On 9/6/2025 at 3:51 PM, Sonosusto said: Oh I didn't know that. I wouldn't have a clue as to which version would improve performance. Good to know, thanks. I bet if I read their manual I would have know that. Then again, I usually dive into a plane without reading it first haha. Which version do you use? I am on the experimental version and have always been. I don't know anything about the three versions ( DX 11, Vulcan, etc..) , where is that located in the menu's? Edited September 8, 2025Sep 8 by Bobsk8
September 8, 2025Sep 8 37 minutes ago, bhx22 said: Another BATC bashing thread i think its fantastic never had a problem with it. Some troll or another company no doubt trying to give BATC a bad name in my opinion. I'm an air traffic controller irl - I have tower, terminal radar and enroute/FIR qualifications - almost 20 years in. I tailor my expectations when I'm talking about BATC knowing it's a sim. That being said if you fly airliners it generally works good enough but if you fly other types of non structured routing (like airport to airport direct) or get vectored for instrument approaches, it is terrible. There's plenty of evidence for poor vectoring and approach "control" by BATC. If it works for you that's probably because you fly airliners on structured routing (SIDS/STARS) in and out of large airports. But there's a TON more to aviation other than airliner flying, and BATC struggles greatly in those flight regimes. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
September 8, 2025Sep 8 7 hours ago, Fiorentoni said: It‘s on the devs‘ list, that was confirmed, but whether it‘s soon or not I can‘t tell. What exactly is broken at EDDK that BATC does not work with it? I fly out of there from time to time and have not noticed any issues.
September 8, 2025Sep 8 5 hours ago, Farlis said: What exactly is broken at EDDK that BATC does not work with it? I fly out of there from time to time and have not noticed any issues. The MSFS default EDDK is outdated. The runway numbers are years old by now and Asobo just doesn't seem to care to update them. Therefore BATC - having custom ops / flows for EDDK - cannot find a runway for EDDK, because it obviously is looking for the current runway setup and not the one from like 5 years ago. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
September 8, 2025Sep 8 7 hours ago, ryanbatc said: I'm an air traffic controller irl - I have tower, terminal radar and enroute/FIR qualifications - almost 20 years in. I tailor my expectations when I'm talking about BATC knowing it's a sim. That being said if you fly airliners it generally works good enough but if you fly other types of non structured routing (like airport to airport direct) or get vectored for instrument approaches, it is terrible. There's plenty of evidence for poor vectoring and approach "control" by BATC. If it works for you that's probably because you fly airliners on structured routing (SIDS/STARS) in and out of large airports. But there's a TON more to aviation other than airliner flying, and BATC struggles greatly in those flight regimes. I really wish atc program did more GA or flight following. I know pilot2atc does this but doesn't inject traffic. Keep it for that very reason. BATC needs to allow room for editing your flight besides simbrief. IMO. Thanks for your input! 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
September 8, 2025Sep 8 We all seem to forget how far these programs have come the last 2 1/2 years. Amazing progress. Anybody remember Flight Unlimited 2. Bought it just for ATC. Man that was terrible. Anyway long way to go, but at least we are seeing progress for once when it comes ATC. Ron MSFS 2024 -Too many airplanes to name. Too many airports to name.
September 8, 2025Sep 8 45 minutes ago, Sonosusto said: I really wish atc program did more GA or flight following. I know pilot2atc does this but doesn't inject traffic. Keep it for that very reason. BATC needs to allow room for editing your flight besides simbrief. IMO. Thanks for your input! Yeah. Flying GA Its the only time I feel like MSFS is a dead world. Would love to see way more progress in that direction. Ron MSFS 2024 -Too many airplanes to name. Too many airports to name.
September 8, 2025Sep 8 13 minutes ago, Ron Lefebvre said: Yeah. Flying GA Its the only time I feel like MSFS is a dead world. Would love to see way more progress in that direction. I see BATC offers "GA" listed for 2024 but I hardly see any. Kind of wish I could use that GA mod that adds a few of them in their despite the batc injection. 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
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