July 5, 2025Jul 5 2 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: Waiting for this, which was posted on their forum a couple of hours ago. Black Square Black Square Developer wrote about 4 hours agolast edited by #5 The Baron and Bonanza will be the first of the Professional Series, so hopefully within the next couple of months. They are all done except paint and sounds, both of which are well underway. There was lots of excitement about these aircraft at Flight Sim Expo, which has given me a renewed excitement for them, as well! Wow...that's crazy fast! The amount of work he pumps out is insane. I was totally assuming it would be a year or two. I almost wish it was because I'll barely have time to get acquainted w/ Starship before they're here!
July 5, 2025Jul 5 11 hours ago, ryanbatc said: If by old stuff you mean the original bo and Baron - that stuff used the 2020 default aircraft - therefore the new versions are totally from scratch - black square will not be updating those older versions. We all know that. As i said, im not interested in a Twin Commander or other new stuff until i have a good BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan and King Air in my Hangar. What i do not understand is, why not bringing these as the new versions on the market again before spending resources on new aircraft. Regards, Jan Ast Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2 Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder
July 5, 2025Jul 5 5 hours ago, Paladin2005 said: What i do not understand is, why not bringing these as the new versions on the market again before spending resources on new aircraft. Well, that's pretty much what he's doing. The Baron, Bonanza, and Caravan are next in line for release. He's always managed multiple projects at once, and even if they were all finished already, he wouldn't release them right now since the Starship has only been out for two weeks or so. It is a business, after all.
July 5, 2025Jul 5 10 hours ago, Paladin2005 said: What i do not understand is, why not bringing these as the new versions on the market again before spending resources on new aircraft. What's not to understand? New planes bring new interest to the brand, and that's a good thing for all of us. Just to be clear, I'm also waiting anxiously for the updated Bonanza (and to a lesser extent, the Baron which I don't currently have but will definitely add with the update). I love the current Bo and fly it more than any other piston single, but after experiencing the Dukes I can hardly wait to have the Bo updated to that level. And then there's the turbine conversion! However, despite MY preferences, I still get why he's more recently focused on bringing completely new models to the table to add new customers and broaden his appeal, and I respect his decisions. For my part, I'm just happy to have someone who has the obvious passion he has, coupled with the mad development skills he obviously possesses, bringing us so many top-tier GA aircraft all while still looking after his installed base with updates, even if the pace doesn't satisfy everyone. The amount of high quality work this guy puts out simply amazes me. Scott
July 5, 2025Jul 5 On 7/3/2025 at 10:34 PM, petejohno1 said: It's happening. The Bonanza, Caravan and Baron are all being updated to 2024 with heaps of new features. Patience grasshopper... Pretty sure those are New Builds, tho...right? The implication being they'll be paid add-ons and not upgrades...?
July 5, 2025Jul 5 2 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said: Pretty sure those are New Builds, tho...right? The implication being they'll be paid add-ons and not upgrades...? Yes. They pretty much have to be for 2024 since the old ones were modifications to default 2020 planes rather than from-scratch new models. To support '24 AND to bring the planes to the standards of his later efforts, starting over from a blank sheet of paper was the only practical approach. Pretty sure I read somewhere that there were discounts planned for existing customers but I'm not sure where I saw that. Probably in one of the discussions on the JF forums. Scott
July 5, 2025Jul 5 19 minutes ago, tttocs said: Yes. They pretty much have to be for 2024 since the old ones were modifications to default 2020 planes rather than from-scratch new models. To support '24 AND to bring the planes to the standards of his later efforts, starting over from a blank sheet of paper was the only practical approach. Pretty sure I read somewhere that there were discounts planned for existing customers but I'm not sure where I saw that. Probably in one of the discussions on the JF forums. Scott Okay, cool. That was my impression, and I agree with your perspective on it, as well. 👍
July 6, 2025Jul 6 Best flying and landing GA aircraft in a sim, I have ever flown, Blacksquare Turbine Duke.
July 6, 2025Jul 6 On 7/5/2025 at 6:57 AM, Paladin2005 said: What i do not understand is, why not bringing these as the new versions on the market again before spending resources on new aircraft. because you are not in sales or marketing? those others (Duke, Bonanza, Baron, KingAir) will be their best selling anyway. same reason why on pop concerts the bands usually play newer or less popular titles first, the greatest hits always come last. AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
July 7, 2025Jul 7 Nice! They always make great stuff. Might skip this one since I've already bought a plane yesterday haha. BUT I can't wait for their updates to the Bonanza. Professional series etc. This Commander plane is pretty cool though 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
July 7, 2025Jul 7 7 hours ago, turbomax said: because you are not in sales or marketing? those others (Duke, Bonanza, Baron, KingAir) will be their best selling anyway. same reason why on pop concerts the bands usually play newer or less popular titles first, the greatest hits always come last. Exactly the reason why i bring the best selling pieces first when i want to make some budget for the next projects. Its not a movie where the boss fight comes at the end 🙂 Regards, Jan Ast Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2 Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder
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