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Should have stuck with Nvidia

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Never had an AMD card before with MSFS and I’m not happy with it in 2020. Replaced my old 3080 with a Sapphire RX7900XT and there is nothing about it that is better. I had to put my 4k ultra monitor in gaming mode otherwise there is black flickering in full screen mode. I was fixed at a smooth 1/2 rate 30fps before but now that is jerky and have to run at 60fps and I have had to keep just about the same graphics settings that I had with the 3080 in order to get slightly better performance. Nothing worse than spending a lot of money for an upgrade that isn’t much better.

Edited by desbean

Unfortunately, there's some truth to this. Since I don't know your PC specs, I can share some settings that one of our friends uses, and they are somewhat acceptable.
 
Radeon Anti-Lag: On, Radeon Chill: Off, Radeon Boost: Off, Image Sharpening: 80%, FSR (FidelityFX Super Resolution): Off, VRAM Allocation: Max (20GB), Power Limit: +10-15%, Fan Curve: Aggressive, and you might want to undervolt the GPU 1050-1100mV.

747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning. 

On the flip side, the 50 series is still being plagued with driver issues, not to mention the launch issues those cards had. It's becoming obvious that Nvidia only cares about its AI customers and gaming has taken a backseat.

With that said, I'm guessing you've done the standard DDU cleanup and uninstalled all Nvidia related software on your system? Going back and revisiting system settings you may have changed such as HAGS and resizable BAR would also be worth it now that you're on a different card. Also check if there is a BIOS update available for your card.

AMD did me wrong back in the day and I haven't been back since, but Nvidia is getting just as bad as AMD used to be. AMD has at least been improving over recent years...

So i was trying to avoid this thread but i have to ask ...

Is this a complaint/vent  thread or an asking for help in configuring your system and sim for a graphics card that you probably have no idea how to use properly thread ?

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Agree. We could now start acking if the switch from nVIDIA to AMD was done properly, but somehow I have the feeling it is just a vent thread and the opinion is fixed...

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

1 hour ago, desbean said:

Replaced my old 3080 with a Sapphire RX7900XT

Any reason why you went with the 7900XT 20GB and not the 7900XTX 24GB?  Cost difference is not that much and you get a lot more performance out of the 7900XTX.  

For MSFS 2024, I would definitely recommend a GPU with 24GB or more if you plan to use 4K and Ultra settings.  Your results from 3080 to 7900XT are about what I would have expected … did someone lead you astray or did you get bad info online somewhere?

Changing topic to AMD 9070XT, the only disappointing aspect to AMD 9070XT 16GB is the 16GB … not enough to run Ultra settings in MSFS 2024.  However, most recent drivers for the AMD 9070XT 16GB have increased performance by about 18% in MSFS 2024 but I haven’t seen the claimed 29% increase (assume that was just a specific title/game).

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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan

2 hours ago, Funky D said:

On the flip side, the 50 series is still being plagued with driver issues, not to mention the launch issues those cards had.

5090 has been flawless for me since getting it in March.

2 hours ago, Funky D said:

the 50 series is still being plagued with driver issues

Please enlighten me - no issues here with the last 3- 4 driver updates ???

Cheers, Søren Dissing

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3 minutes ago, SierraDelta said:

Please enlighten me - no issues here with the last 3- 4 driver updates ???

A quick visit to Nvidia's GRD Forums still has plenty of people complaining about issues that apparently only affect 50 series cards. But it's not only the 50 series... I still have issues with my 3090 that only cropped up when the 50 series and their accompanying driver was released. I'm not talking MSFS specific issues, I'm talking other game or even system-wide specific issues. They supposedly fixed an issue with monitors connected via DisplayPort losing connection momentarily. Nope, not fixed. I haven't been able to watch multiple Twitch streams at a time since the 366 drivers without browsers locking up until I move one of the windows (apparently a driver-related MPO issue that has existed in some state or form with Nvidia cards ever since MS introduced MPO years ago). Who knows if that one will ever be fixed. The list goes on with other game regressions and quirks that didn't exist when Nvidia had better quality control.

I was never a big fan of AMD cards. They always took a back seat to Nvidia over the years. I never jumped at the latest 5000 series cards from Nvidia because I feel that I won't see that much difference or improvement or performance in the latest 5000 series to what I have now. What I have now rocks running 2020 and now 2024, so for me the latest NVidia cards are a waste of money for me.

Bill McIntyre

Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64                                                                                                                                             

42 minutes ago, Bigmack said:

I was never a big fan of AMD cards. They always took a back seat to Nvidia over the years. I never jumped at the latest 5000 series cards from Nvidia because I feel that I won't see that much difference or improvement or performance in the latest 5000 series to what I have now. What I have now rocks running 2020 and now 2024, so for me the latest NVidia cards are a waste of money for me.

I bought a 7900XTX - no way I am spending $5,000+ in my currency for a video card.

I'm happy with it and the 24gb VRAM leaves a lot if spare overhead.

David Porrett

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6 hours ago, Funky D said:

On the flip side, the 50 series is still being plagued with driver issues, not to mention the launch issues those cards had. It's becoming obvious that Nvidia only cares about its AI customers and gaming has taken a backseat.

With that said, I'm guessing you've done the standard DDU cleanup and uninstalled all Nvidia related software on your system? Going back and revisiting system settings you may have changed such as HAGS and resizable BAR would also be worth it now that you're on a different card. Also check if there is a BIOS update available for your card.

AMD did me wrong back in the day and I haven't been back since, but Nvidia is getting just as bad as AMD used to be. AMD has at least been improving over recent years...

Yes it is completely cleaned up. Not anything that even begins with an N on my system. Driver and bios are the latest, and I have watched and read endlessly about cleaning up Nvidia leftovers and AMD configuration from people that seem to have experience. Totally agree with you that Nvidia is all in for the big AI customers now, and treating their long time loyal base like word not allowed. One of the reasons I skipped on them this time around. Thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate it! Thanks also to LRBS!

I see a couple people like maxis, acting like a minimus, claiming that I probably don’t know what I am doing, having had their feelings hurt because they have AMD cards, but sorry children, I am not new to this, and I am talking about a video card not your mommy so relax.

Lookin at Amazon usa right now:

rtx7900xtx cheapest is $999.

rtx7900xt cheapest is $649

These are cheaper than what they were awhile ago.

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

You say you have wiped nvidia drivers. Did you download and use DDU and boot your OS into safe mode and follow the DDU instructions to wipe all nvidia leftovers before putting in your new card?  

Did you check on the side of your GPU to see if you have a switch to change between bios? Some graphics cards like my 7900XTX have a silent AND an overclock performance physical bios toggle switch on the side of the GPU, the cards are normally set on the silent bios out of the box. 

All I can say in regard to AMD gpu's is that I have a 7900XTX and I have excellent performance in 2020 and stellar performance in 2024.

I transitioned from a 4070 Super recently to a 9070XT and while there was some transition "what's going on" and I initially had some buyer's remorse, I have to say that I am now far happier with the 9070XT. 

First off, MSFS2024 is horribly optimized, so indeed, I initially didn't see much improvement, mainly because of how the VRAM is being used. The problem there is REBAR. I recommend turning REBAR off from your BIOS and you'll see about an extra GB of VRAM available with about 1GB being less used by the sim. 

Second, I had the reverse situation, plenty of flickering with Nvidia but no flickering with AMD. What I was able to find out, was because my display was g-sync compatible (didn't have the dedicated chip), the flickering was happening on HDR. But since freesync pro is open source, my display has it and flickering is gone for me. 

The rest, honestly, much better than with Nvidia. I've had nothing but driver issues with Nvidia in the past year, and the AMD drivers are just solid. 

I'd wish for 20GB+ of VRAM, but that's a problem caused by both the state of industry right now, as well as the state of optimization on the MSFS side. X-Plane uses 20-30% less VRAM easily and handles the heavy portions much more gracefully (no stuttering), by comparison. 

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