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FlightFX Cessna 750 (Citation X)--released

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14 hours ago, JRBarrett said:

Important to keep in mind that the Primus 2000 is a 25-year-old design, whereas modern Garmin avionics are much newer.

Nevertheless, for its time, the Primus 2000 was very much “state of the art”, and is still fully useable today. It was/is found in a lot of different bizjets and regional airliners, including the Lear 45, Falcon 900EX and Embraer EMB-145

Thanks for this. It has certainly survived the “test of time”. Must have been exceptionally remarkable when first introduced!

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On 8/1/2025 at 9:20 PM, Sky_Pilot071 said:

This one has too many buttons and doodads for me.  Sticking to her little brother HJET.

Marwan says the 2024 update is in the works.  Can't wait.

dd

I love the HJet but haven't touched it since the X was released, it's like a little airliner with great avionics IMO, the modern single-pilot stuff is just a little tedious in comparison now IMO

9 hours ago, EGLD said:

I love the HJet but haven't touched it since the X was released, it's like a little airliner with great avionics IMO, the modern single-pilot stuff is just a little tedious in comparison now IMO

The HJet is the most user friendly, automated push button bizjet I've experienced in terms of operation workload.

Not sure how you would consider it more tedious to operate over the X.

The HJet operates like a smartphone operated smartcar in comparison to the X.

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exactly! 😆

The view from the HJet cockpit is the most user unfriendly, hideous experience of any of the bizjets currently available. Even worse than the Longitude. I would never install it again now that I have this. 

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6 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

The view from the HJet cockpit is the most user unfriendly, hideous experience of any of the bizjets currently available. Even worse than the Longitude. I would never install it again now that I have this. 

???
The Hjet is faithfully modeled to it's Hondajet namesake, which was not designed as an observation aircraft.

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16 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

The view from the HJet cockpit is the most user unfriendly, hideous experience of any of the bizjets currently available. Even worse than the Longitude. I would never install it again now that I have this. 

Yea not sure what you would want devs to do about the modeled view of the actual IRL aircraft cockpit/windshield view implementation. 

My only gripe of the HJet is the Dev's apparent neglect to implement a better throttle fuel cutoff/on function.

Clicking the invisible sweetspots hidden around the level knob indents or having to map a fuel/engine shutoff hotkey with comprimises are unacceptable in 2025.

Reminded me of the low effort "just click around in this blank area" TOGA button implementation of the Embraer ERJ 135LR & 145XR by Feelthere.

Terrible!

Other than that it's one gorgeous comfortable high tech automated bizjet which makes even the Citation X feel like an older brute dinosaur.

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4 minutes ago, fppilot said:

???
The Hjet is faithfully modeled to it's Hondajet namesake, which was not designed as an observation aircraft.

I'm not saying it's not accurate, I'm saying it's unpleasant. If I'm going to sit in that cockpit for an hour or four, I kind of need the seating position and view to be acceptable, personally. I love the view from the X, I'm happy with the views from the 35A and the Cirrus. The HJet just feels uncomfortable to me. 

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18 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

The view from the HJet cockpit is the most user unfriendly, hideous experience of any of the bizjets currently available. Even worse than the Longitude. I would never install it again now that I have this. 

I'm not sure what could be a problem? There are short and tall pilot seat can be adjusted accordingly. 

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18 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

I'm not saying it's not accurate, I'm saying it's unpleasant. If I'm going to sit in that cockpit for an hour or four, I kind of need the seating position and view to be acceptable, personally. I love the view from the X, I'm happy with the views from the 35A and the Cirrus. The HJet just feels uncomfortable to me. 

I do agree there's just something stuffy about its windshield pillar design that takes a while to get comfortable with especially regarding blind spots.

It actually takes me quite a while to adjust and fine tune my perfect view/seating position to the windshield in VR.

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As for best Bizjet outward view design my personal favorite would certainly be the C510 Mustang, then Cirrus and 35A.

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1 hour ago, St Mawgan said:

The view from the HJet cockpit is the most user unfriendly, hideous experience of any of the bizjets currently available. Even worse than the Longitude.

This is why I don't spend much time in the cockpit in most aircraft - the view's much better from the outside <grin>. Couple of exceptions, VL3, Vans, but generally .  .  .

And anyway, I thought all you serious simmer types liked it in the cockpit <bigger grin>

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Marwan rocks in both cases but the HJET fits my needs better due to my airport array and distances. Also the X reminds me of a tubeliner which is a no go.  lol

dd

2 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Marwan rocks in both cases but the HJET fits my needs better due to my airport array and distances. Also the X reminds me of a tubeliner which is a no go.  lol

dd

Only thing tubeliner about the X are the engines 😉

Just had to throw that out there Happy Landings

 

5 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

I'm not saying it's not accurate, I'm saying it's unpleasant. If I'm going to sit in that cockpit for an hour or four, I kind of need the seating position and view to be acceptable, personally. I love the view from the X, I'm happy with the views from the 35A and the Cirrus. The HJet just feels uncomfortable to me. 

Well I have a history (a good while ago) where I raced prototype sport coupes.  All I cared about was checking my mirrors for threats from behind and looking out in front at what was next, and I have not since had so much fun and satisfaction.

With flight simulation, at FL altitudes, I focus on flying and I try to avoid "tunnel vision"......

I do respect your choice.

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13 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

makes even the Citation X feel like an older brute dinosaur.

stop! I can only love it so much! 😆

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