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BlueBird November 2025 Update

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Why don’t they release it for MSFS2004?

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  • How is releasing for an old sim "thinking ahead"

  • If I recall correctly, the 757 was started well before 2024 was released. They could have stopped development for 2020, which is far more stable and complete, and switched over to 2024, which is still

  • Peter Z KCLE_EDDN
    Peter Z KCLE_EDDN

    Avsim is not the place to attack someone for their nationality. Please refrain from doing so going forward. 

I legitimately don’t care about this or the A220 anymore. Just say 2027 and beyond at this point 

 
 

As I said a few years ago, I am not underestimating what it takes to develop these models, but I wish a lot of these developers would release a 'light' model first with a 'professional' model following afterwards.

I love the 757 (and 767), and just wish we had something to fill the gap. 
By the time we get this, it will probably be a systems heavy product that I don't particularly want in either price and complexity, and it will probably need updating for MSFS2028 shortly afterwards. :rolleyes:

Releasing a 'light' version would also allow them to raise some revenue as well.

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58 minutes ago, psolk said:

It's the opposite of Wimpy and Popeye paying you Tuesday for a Hamburger today, they would prefer you pay them today for a Hamburger sometime next year!  

But if you pay now for the 2020 version sometime next year they will also throw in a 2024 version "sometime" after that... 

Which to be honest, are they really going to charge people for both?  

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No different to what other developers are doing. I say that some developers are charging upgrade pricing for the new sim....

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4 hours ago, chapstick said:

How is releasing for an old sim "thinking ahead"

That’s the joke. SMH. 

11 minutes ago, UAL4life said:

That’s the joke. SMH. 

Only the humourless fellow german did not get it and really thinks developing of MS2020 at this point is a sound business decision. 

1 hour ago, rob0203 said:

Why don’t they release it for MSFS2004?

Because MSFS2004 is word not allowed.

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55 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

No different to what other developers are doing. I say that some developers are charging upgrade pricing for the new sim....

Which is neither here nor there, someone asked for a synopsis of the video so that's what I provided.

Oh, and $80

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21 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Only the humourless fellow german did not get it and really thinks developing of MS2020 at this point is a sound business decision. 

Avsim is not the place to attack someone for their nationality. Please refrain from doing so going forward. 

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4 minutes ago, psolk said:

Which is neither here nor there, someone asked for a synopsis of the video so that's what I provided.

If only you actually said what was mentioned.

5 hours ago, martinboehme said:

Can't watch the video right now - can someone summarize what they said? 

More about just giving for one of the dev team who live in Jamaica whose lost basically everything. Some snippets of the 757/767 and just talking about people who seem to think they know best and rather they developed the 757 just for 24. 

1 hour ago, Farlis said:

Only the humourless fellow german did not get it and really thinks developing of MS2020 at this point is a sound business decision. 

That's nice of you my friend, but I'll will remember that !!! 🤨

cheers 🤔

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As someone who doesn't see value in 2020 anymore, I don't actually mind them releasing there first. 
This is clearly a massive undertaking and sticking to what you've started with makes total sense. You just don't change your dev environment this far into it.

The timings are interesting though, Sherwin is predicting 4-6 months for the flight systems to be complete and that puts the plane into Q2 2026 easily. Not to speculate of course. 

I actually think this is a good example for other devs to follow. Everyone is understandably hesitant to give release dates, but saying hey here's approximately how long this bit is going to take us is helpful. It manages expectations and much more useful than just "soon". 

2 hours ago, Peter Z KCLE_EDDN said:

Avsim is not the place to attack someone for their nationality. Please refrain from doing so going forward. 

I did not attack anyone for their nationality. I'm german myself, I KNOW we have no humour. 😜

43 minutes ago, Farlis said:

I did not attack anyone for their nationality. I'm german myself, I KNOW we have no humour. 😜

That's how I read it too.  Just some friendly banter.

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