January 18Jan 18 On 1/13/2026 at 1:44 AM, EGLD said: You’re both talking past me, unfortunately. I was trying to identify compelling reasons for me personally to go from FS20 to FS24, and I said I didn’t see any specific new features that I personally find compelling. You've reframed that into “can you keep running old software if you like it?”, which is obviously true but not the point I was making. When I said “compelling,” I meant compelling features in FS24 relative to FS20. Hope that clarifies! I will say, as someone who only flies airlines once the PMDG 737 got released I went from only 2020 to only 2024.... Mostly because I could see the writing on the wall for future 2020 updates and releases.... I will say as someone who got a pretty good system back in 2020 which is now outdated I was very surprised at the 2024 performance. Ultra settings on 2020 I needed Lossless Scaling to have anything close to a smooth experience... On 2024 I'm one down from Ultra (forget what its called, maybe high) and no need for lossless scaling, its very smooth. I could use more VRAM. I have 11GB, but outside of that its a good experience (PMDG, Fenix, ini A350, w/ Beyond ATC with AIG models for Traffic) Nick Running
January 19Jan 19 20 hours ago, JetClipperJR said: Is it worth it to install the 2020 World Updates that appear in the Marketplace in 2024? In general, if you set a large enough rolling cache, you probably don't need to download any of the World Updates onto your computer. When you start flying over a World Update area, it should download that World Update to your rolling cache, such that the second time you fly the same area, it's already stored on your hard drive in the rolling cache. However, the very definition of rolling cache is that it is "rolling." So if your rolling cache is set to a small size, an area that you previously flew, may have been removed from the rolling cache if you haven't flown that area for some time. I think the MSFS team recommends you set your rolling cache for MSFS 2024 to about 32 GB. If there is a specific World Update area that you constantly fly and you can afford the disk space, then it doesn't hurt to download that World Update instead of streaming it. But in general, the rolling cache is a good way to let your flight habits determine which World Update should be cached and which shouldn't be cached. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
January 19Jan 19 I will keep 2020 installed, due to the 757 release in the near future. I mainly use 2024. Windows 11 Pro, Intel Ultra 270K at 5.7 GHz, Asus RTX 5070TI,48 GB ddr5 Trident Z 8000mhz CLK 40, 4TB M.2 x 1, 2TB nvme
January 19Jan 19 26 minutes ago, Culley4246 said: I will keep 2020 installed, due to the 757 release in the near future. I mainly use 2024. Why, it won’t be released to 2024 in parallel? Shom MSFS2024 running on Win 11, 4K screen, Z790 AORUS ELITE AX-W, i9-14900K, MSI 3080Ti, Corsair 2x32GB 6000 MHz, 1+2TB M.2 NVMEs
January 19Jan 19 First I thought, let's wait a little, until 2024 is kind of a finished product. Now I wonder, if I should skip 2024 totally and go for the next one. There's no major feature, I miss in 2020 (flying airliners only). The ground textures (ported from 2024 back to 2020) were kind of a downgrade for 2020. There may be some better visuals (especially regarding lighting) in 2024. But I have tuned my 2020 to the best stage and it is equipped with all addons and tools I need.
January 20Jan 20 13 hours ago, Watsi said: First I thought, let's wait a little, until 2024 is kind of a finished product. Now I wonder, if I should skip 2024 totally and go for the next one. There's no major feature, I miss in 2020 (flying airliners only). The ground textures (ported from 2024 back to 2020) were kind of a downgrade for 2020. There may be some better visuals (especially regarding lighting) in 2024. But I have tuned my 2020 to the best stage and it is equipped with all addons and tools I need. Same to me, i put to much work/ love in MSFS2020 and by the way there is nothing special at MSFS2024 so why should i switch to 2024, and that said, I mostly, almost always fly airliners, so I am happy with MSFS2020 !! And MSFS2024 is still not ready.. cheers 😉 Edited January 20Jan 20 by pmplayer 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
January 20Jan 20 My top reason to make the move was and is streaming. Now when I make a purchase on the MP (no credit card nonsense) it takes maybe a minute instead of 1/2 hour. Still have not downloaded anything. Not necessary anymore. dd Edited January 20Jan 20 by Sky_Pilot071
January 20Jan 20 3 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said: My top reason to make the move was and is streaming. Now when I make a purchase on the MP (no credit card nonsense) it takes maybe a minute instead of 1/2 hour. Still have not downloaded anything. Not necessary anymore. dd Well, that's another reason for hesitating. You know, we still do not have the fastest internet connections in Germany. You can switch to your cabel TV provider (they're also providing internet). But if you do that, you have all from one line (if cable TV breaks, internet does too). I don't like that. With the usual connection, you have 100Mbit at its best (many, like me, still are only able to get 50Mbit, because of the old lines). It works totally fine with 2020, but I'm not sure how streaming even more content (2024) would fit to my internet connection. (knowing that it won't get better with the next release of MSFS) 😒 Edited January 20Jan 20 by Watsi
January 20Jan 20 17 hours ago, Watsi said: Now I wonder, if I should skip 2024 totally and go for the next one. Don't forget to add a year or so before the next version is stable, so you're looking at using 2020 until 2030 🙂 FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb 9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps
January 20Jan 20 33 minutes ago, Watsi said: only able to get 50Mbit, enough for MSFS 2024, only in the initial setup phase while it downloads your environment, during flight you'll never be limited by 50 MBit download speeds again, so no issue here. Edited January 20Jan 20 by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
January 20Jan 20 42 minutes ago, flyingscampi said: Don't forget to add a year or so before the next version is stable, so you're looking at using 2020 until 2030 🙂 And what means that - is this a shame ? I dont think so, You all need to keep in mind that 2020, 2024, and 2028 ( if it comes ) will have the same weather and Earth conditions that we fly around every time, so only the new things will be added, e.g., the rocks by the water, etc., in MSFS2024, for example, and so on. For me, I don't see any big reason to switch that would blow me away, so I can live without those gimmicks and will probably stick with 2020 as long as server support is guaranteed, because they made 2020 so great that it is the base sim for all subsequent ones that Asobo is allowed to continue under MS. After five years, 2020 is still as modern as it was at the beginning, and I think that will still be the case in 2030, as I said, if we 2020 simmers are still allowed to log in ! We'll see how things develop... cheers 😉 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
January 20Jan 20 19 minutes ago, pmplayer said: And what means that - is this a shame ? I know where you're coming from, I drive a 15 year old Golf because I can't see any reason to change it 🙂 My compelling reason to switch to 2024 was the loading time, and there was no other reason not to. FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb 9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps
January 20Jan 20 11 hours ago, pmplayer said: Same to me, i put to much work/ love in MSFS2020 and by the way there is nothing special at MSFS2024 so why should i switch to 2024, and that said, I mostly, almost always fly airliners, so I am happy with MSFS2020 !! And MSFS2024 is still not ready.. cheers 😉 You're living in a fantasy world, regarding your reasoning 😄 Have you even used / tried MSFS 2024? Or are all these outdated views from YouTube videos, from December 2024? Nothing you say matches with reality. "And MSFS2024 is still not ready". It's more ready now than 2020 is after 5 years. Those of us who have actually used it for a year know that to be true. Tell us what's "not ready". Look if you want to stay with an outdated, replaced platform, that has no further development furure... that is absolutely fine and totally up to you. As @St Mawgan has pointed out many times in these types of threads; those hanging on to 2020 seem to think that the rest of us need to justify and persuade them to upgrade... actually, no-one really cares what platform another simmer is using. So stick with 2020 for the next 4 years (just as some simmers are still using FS9 today). But posting such nonsensical reasoning will provoke posts such as this one. 😉 Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
January 20Jan 20 12 minutes ago, JYW said: You're living in a fantasy world, regarding your reasoning 😄 Have you even used / tried MSFS 2024? Or are all these outdated views from YouTube videos, from December 2024? Nothing you say matches with reality. "And MSFS2024 is still not ready". It's more ready now than 2020 is after 5 years. Those of us who have actually used it for a year know that to be true. Tell us what's "not ready". Look if you want to stay with an outdated, replaced platform, that has no further development furure... that is absolutely fine and totally up to you. As @St Mawgan has pointed out many times in these types of threads; those hanging on to 2020 seem to think that the rest of us need to justify and persuade them to upgrade... actually, no-one really cares what platform another simmer is using. So stick with 2020 for the next 4 years (just as some simmers are still using FS9 today). But posting such nonsensical reasoning will provoke posts such as this one. 😉 Be lucky with yours i`m be lucky with mine ☺️ and just to say i post what i want about things which I consider to be a given.. cheers 😉 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
January 20Jan 20 6 hours ago, flyingscampi said: I know where you're coming from, I drive a 15 year old Golf because I can't see any reason to change it 🙂 My compelling reason to switch to 2024 was the loading time, and there was no other reason not to. That Golf was/is a nice automobile. I used to drive a Golf hatchback in the late 80s…probably a 1st or 2nd generation Golf… The Golf seems to have gone through more number of generations (9, I understand, if you count the latest Electric version) than our beloved Microsoft Simulator…🙂…
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