February 23Feb 23 11 hours ago, BWBriscoe said: Shame no update on the PMDG 777 What is it you wanted updated? And probably more to the point, why should FSDreamTeam invest any time supporting PMDG aircraft when PMDG have gone out of their way to avoid and remove integration with GSX Kael Oswald 9950X3D/ 64GB DDR5 6200 @ CL30 / Custom Water Loop / RTX 5090 / 3 x 48" LG C4 OLEDs
February 23Feb 23 12 hours ago, Noel said: I believe Umberto did some code revision because now rerunning the update fixes the issue it appears. I say this because I already had rerun the update to no avail, immediately after the initial problem was identified. In any case it's working fine now after hitting the Check button in the installer to rerun the update. I always run the Check button at least twice after an update to (hopefully) eliminate any issues. It seems to work for me.
February 23Feb 23 They're doing an update to the update right now per the installer message Fred Ziker Ryzen 7 9800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon MB, 64gb DDR 6000 ram, Corsair H100i Liquid CPU cooler, Asus Prime RTX 5080
February 23Feb 23 9 hours ago, KL Oo said: PMDG have gone out of their way to avoid and remove integration with GSX I must admit, I was kinda wondering what happened there? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan
February 23Feb 23 10 minutes ago, SayAgain said: I must admit, I was kinda wondering what happened there? Not sure, but bad form by PMDG in my opinion. Aircraft developers should include 100% GSX integration. It really adds to the immersion when a plane and GSX work seamlessly together. Planes that aren't fully integrated with GSX feel less complete. Orman
February 23Feb 23 20 minutes ago, okupton said: Not sure, but bad form by PMDG in my opinion. I have not much followed PMDG for the past months but it seems something changed in their position toward external addons, notably GSX. GSX certainly has its quirks and i understand PMDG has determined from their data that only a small percentage of their uses use it and so they seem to be removing any kind of support or cooperation with it. That may all be true but as a user of GSX it is a shame because when the integration is done well it really adds to the immersion. This is one of the reasons I keep going back to the Fenix, because the way it all works together is really nice and I enjoy the workflow; it is also a reason why I did not jump at the NGs. Anyway, maybe others have a better understanding of what is happening here.4 MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.
February 23Feb 23 9 minutes ago, Cognita said: GSX certainly has its quirks and i understand PMDG has determined from their data that only a small percentage of their uses use it and so they seem to be removing any kind of support or cooperation with it. Bummer, I hope PMDG bring back GSX support … is it really a huge development effort for them? Just about every airport these days has GSX profile support, seems odd PMDG would drop support for GSX when they already know how to integrate it from prior aircraft that did support it? It does make me wonder about PMDG revenue stream when they drop some features they used to implement? Are sales not as “golden” as I thought? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan
February 23Feb 23 14 minutes ago, Cognita said: That may all be true but as a user of GSX it is a shame because when the integration is done well it really adds to the immersion. Totally agree. Just speculation of course, but maybe it has to do with GSX constantly being updated (which I am very grateful of), and may require PMDG to spend on development if one of the GSX updates breaks integration? Fenix works flawlessly as does the FSLABS in p3d (don't have their offerings in MSFS). And it puts planes that are fully integrated with GSX at a higher tier than the planes that aren't. GSX is a "must have" add on in my mind, so hard for me to believe that there aren't enough PMDG/GSX users out there for them to integrate. Orman
February 23Feb 23 53 minutes ago, SayAgain said: Bummer, I hope PMDG bring back GSX support … is it really a huge development effort for them? From what I gathered (based on comments from Mathijs) PMDG is very much only interested in features that can be be experienced on both PC and XBOX and is often hesitant to do PC-only feature despite it being requested.
February 23Feb 23 Just now, Lucky38i said: features that can be be experienced on both PC and XBOX and is often hesitant to do PC-only feature despite it being requested That’s odd, I thought I read in the PMDG manuals that their 737 series has some features only available for PC and not XBOX? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan
February 23Feb 23 1 hour ago, SayAgain said: That’s odd, I thought I read in the PMDG manuals that their 737 series has some features only available for PC and not XBOX? Im just going based on Mathijs responses to certain feature requests. I can't really think of any specific feature the PMDG currently has that's not on Xbox except for the more recent hoppie support. Though I'm happy to be corrected.
February 26Feb 26 Commercial Member On 2/22/2026 at 7:37 PM, BWBriscoe said: Shame no update on the PMDG 777 What's wrong with it ? We already supports all models, both 2020 and 2024 versions so, unless something is not working as expected, the support for all current models is there. Umberto Colapicchioni http://www.fsdreamteam.com FSDT on Facebook
February 26Feb 26 I'm sure that GSX loaded PAX and cargo in the 2020 version of the PMDG 737, but in the 2024 version I have to load manually with the EFB/CDU. Am I doing something wrong? FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb 9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps
February 26Feb 26 5 hours ago, virtuali said: What's wrong with it ? We already supports all models, both 2020 and 2024 versions so, unless something is not working as expected, the support for all current models is there. I concur. I just last night flew a flight from KSDF to KPDX. Parked at spot 7 of the UPS Freight Docks, Standiford Field I called upon GSX Pro to load Fuel, Cargo and PAX (crew). After reading comments in this thread I did not know what to expect. Let me state here GSX Pro and the PMDG 777F both delivered a flawless performance. Great fun to watch. All players showed up on time, went to their appropriate spots, did their delegated tasks and then retreated with grace and aplomb. Stellar! I for one could not ask for more. Kudos to both FSDT and PMDG. YMMV. TANSTAAFL. Blue skies, -B Edited February 26Feb 26 by btacon
February 26Feb 26 Commercial Member On 2/23/2026 at 4:10 PM, Cognita said: I have not much followed PMDG for the past months but it seems something changed in their position toward external addons, notably GSX. GSX certainly has its quirks and i understand PMDG has determined from their data that only a small percentage of their uses use it and so they seem to be removing any kind of support or cooperation with it. That may all be true but as a user of GSX it is a shame because when the integration is done well it really adds to the immersion. This is one of the reasons I keep going back to the Fenix, because the way it all works together is really nice and I enjoy the workflow; it is also a reason why I did not jump at the NGs. Anyway, maybe others have a better understanding of what is happening here.4 I'd wager it's more to do with PMDG wanting their codebase to be friction free between platforms. Removing GSX support is probably due to it not existing on Xbox/PS5 and so in order to keep their support and deployment channels "clean" they removed built-in support for any tool that isn't available on cross platform. Which kind of sucks, since GSX brings a lot to the simulator when it is available, and it's sad that they'd prefer to remove support for something that users enjoy over maintaining a slightly different branch for PC. Developer of Self-Loading Cargo - The Cabin Crew and Passenger Simulation Addon for MSFS, X-Plane, P3D and FSX
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