14 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

Many people also complain about the state of "weather" in v2024. I find the weather and the way airplane reacts to wind much better than it was in v2020. Maybe it's my FSRealistic Pro settings or v2024 turbulence on "realistic" setting, but IMO, it's just feels more realistic, especially as you approach the runway. Awesome feeling!

Turbulence is also improving in SU5

3 hours ago, Rocky_53 said:

Well, I did the dirty deed at the weekend and Installed Win 11 and MSFS 2024. So for the past three days I've spent reinstalling dozens of apps and addons, still loads more to install! As I literally, wanted a full, clean install. Yesterday I started a quick flight in the PMDG 738, all with default scenery, from Rio De Janeiro. To say I was aghast and disappointed would be an understatement. Yes, the UI has improved in some areas, things seem to be more logically set out, it seems very much smoother, but, what's all this about... when I jump from an external view back into the cockpit, everything is blurry for a second while it loads! Darn awful, ridiculous. But the big issue was the terrain, not just blurry, but unacceptably blurry. I read much about this issue over the past weeks but was convinced it was people's rigs. Wow, with my pretty high end system, I certainly did not expect the kind of issues that I've experienced. The other thing was the clouds, they looked second rate compared to 2020. Also, unless it was my imagination, and this is difficult to describe, but everything looked less 'real' and more 'cartoony.' These were just my initial reactions, even after having trees, grass, rocks, buildings set to ultra or high. I am very unhappy, as I wanted to make this sim work. Today I will follow some further advice on settings, but if things don't change, then I will return to 2020.  Could it be finger trouble at my end? Are there some specific settings I need to know about that affect this? I'd be interested in any suggestions or ideas from anyone who may have some advice or opinions.

My transition to MSFS 2024 has been the complete opposite to you, Howard. I do not see the "blurry to clear" transition when switching between VC and (for example) drone cam views. I do not see "unacceptably blurry" terrain textures (although you will need to clarify where and when you see these). I have downloaded and installed all of my airports and other addons, and also any world updates that I need. I prefer this to streaming, because despite some people saying that there is no difference, I personally believe that there is a difference at certain critical times.

There is massively improved DEM and vector data (no more islands "popping" into existence until I am almost on top of them). No more missing sections of coastal cliffs with trees floating in the air. No more black lakes when I fly from airports like EFIV Ivalo and ESNQ Kiruna. Much more accurate lake and coastline data in Greenland (I can actually fly from Nuuk now). A snow line that advances and retreats on mountains depending on the time of year. Visible changes to tree foliage PER DAY. Much more detailed 3D tree models with far higher resolution textures (you are no doubt aware that I do not use PG, and therefore "blocky" trees are never a problem). No more "land bars" across river mouths and harbours.....

Whilst I only generally use a few scattered clouds in very calm conditions, the detail and textures look very similar to those in MSFS 2020. They also have the same flaws (the bottoms are rather too flat.....why is this always a problem in flight simulators)? As for the overall look of the outside world, I personally think that it has more realistic lighting, better dawn/dusk atmospheric effects, and lakes that just seem to "fit" better into the landscape than they did in MSFS 2020. It definitely does not look "cartoony" to me. The 3D procedural grass looks better, and I really like the rocks/pebbles, particularly near water features.

I do not think that I have tweaked any settings significantly to "make" it look the way it does on my PC. Most of my settings are HIGH, with DSR at 1.75x, and TLOD/OLOD locked @ 250/200 respectively.

I do not know why some people have different experiences with MSFS 2024. I do not know if it is nothing more than subjective opinion, or whether there is some other issue at play 🤔 However, I do echo the thoughts of some other members here regarding DYNAMIC SETTINGS. I have that switched off. There is no way that I want the simulator messing around with my detail settings.

Edited April 22Apr 22 by Christopher Low

3 hours ago, Noel said:

Howard, your issues are all software setup as what you describe is not 2024 it's absolutely stunning here, textures, weather and all. My default TBH is to panic after spending all of that effort moving only to experience what you describe, but that is a mistake because, once again, you have the hardware. 

You also are new to Win 11?  Do you have all of the usual settings configured for HAGS?  Chipset drivers all current, audio drivers all current, etc?  To panic now would be a sad mistake because once again you have everything required to make this sim sing which is why you see well more users now in 2024 than in 2020 (Steam survey).

Given you description I would start with this if you haven't already:

1.  Delete all Nvidia software from Add/Rem programs, but retain NV Control Panel

2.  Go to System > Recovery > Advanced Startup > Restart Now, then select Safe Mode w/o network.

3.  Now go to Search, Disk Cleanup, and clear the DX shader cache option.

3. Next, run DDU and do the full clean up of the GPU software, except NVCP

4.  Now install the current NV driver, however DO NOT install either the NV App, nor HD Audio Driver.  Reboot, and see how things go from there. 

 

Hi Noel, I have done this apart from the Nvidia App, which I use for the filters and disk cleanup. I'll follow your suggestion. Cheers.

Thanks everyone for your input and advice, as always, it is very much appreciated. It does seem that I may be experiencing that initial panic that often sets in immediately after an installation.  It is a little heartwarming to hear so many of you are in full support on 24. I will persevere and follow some of the advice I have read here and see how I get on. Thanks again to all who have taken the time to reply, appreciated. 

2 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

Make sure you turn off Dynamic Settings.  Dynamic Settings is on be default. If it is on, MSFS 2024 will try to preserve the target frame per second (FPS) that you have set. But in order the preserve the FPS you have set, it will tank the graphics, including making everything blurry, so that you can keep your target FPS.

The disadvantage of turning Dynamic Settings off is that your FPS may go lower, and you may even encounter stutters, but your ground textures and the terrain won't be blurry anymore.  But if you are stuttering after you have turned Dynamic Settings off, it's an indication that you graphics settings you have set, is too high for the hardware that you have.  

Not sure why folks are having blurry textures with the Dynamic Setting on.  For me it actually fixes blurry textures.  Go figure.

dd

Edited April 22Apr 22 by Sky_Pilot071

3 minutes ago, Rocky_53 said:

Thanks everyone for your input and advice, as always, it is very much appreciated. It does seem that I may be experiencing that initial panic that often sets in immediately after an installation.  It is a little heartwarming to hear so many of you are in full support on 24. I will persevere and follow some of the advice I have read here and see how I get on. Thanks again to all who have taken the time to reply, appreciated. 

Don't give up. I installed 2024 for the first time less than 6 months ago and after about 30 days I finally got the courage to uninstall 2020. With correct settings 2024 looks so real it's almost hard to believe. You have a strong system so pay attention to shadow, reflection, ambient occlusion and raytrace settings...turn them up - they make lighting of objects look very real. You won't believe how good the PMDG flight decks look when you get your sim lighting settings right.

4 minutes ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Not sure why folks are having blurry textures with the Dynamic Setting on.  For me it actually fixes blurry textures.  Go figure.

dd

Every system seems to react differently to certain setting. In theory the dynamic settings it is supposed to adjust to a set fps. v2024 dynamic settings does a poor job on my system at keeping textures loaded. It's evident when I pan. I use AutoFPS and it does an excellent job at keeping fps steady and textures sharp.

Funny I'm the reverse, I find the default Dynamic settings gives me better FPS than AutoFPS

8 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

Every system seems to react differently to certain setting. In theory the dynamic settings it is supposed to adjust to a set fps. v2024 dynamic settings does a poor job on my system at keeping textures loaded. It's evident when I pan. I use AutoFPS and it does an excellent job at keeping fps steady and textures sharp.

I don't use any external apps so I'm limited to what the sim provides.  Kind of if I was on a console.

dd

23 minutes ago, somiller said:

With correct settings 2024 looks so real it's almost hard to believe

This is a statement I can totally related to--it's really become photorealistic in so many ways.

Stay with it Howard, has a few issues but basically better than 2020 … a nice evening in Oslo …

 

 

Hopefully motivates you to keep at it …

 

There are tons of videos available on YouTube that are very helpful in resolving all sorts of issues such as yours. I use them constantly to investigate problems that I encounter. I would recommend a channel called "IslandSimPilot". This guy is very knowledgeable and has numerous videos that are very clear and concise. I suggest you check him out.

31 minutes ago, tamba765 said:

There are tons of videos available on YouTube that are very helpful in resolving all sorts of issues such as yours. I use them constantly to investigate problems that I encounter. I would recommend a channel called "IslandSimPilot". This guy is very knowledgeable and has numerous videos that are very clear and concise. I suggest you check him out.

Hi Pete, sure, I am literally on his channel as I type!

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

Funny I'm the reverse, I find the default Dynamic settings gives me better FPS than AutoFPS

It should because it kills draw distance automatically.  I definitely get worse fps with auto fps but I also run minimum TLOD at 400 usually lol.

Sadly, imo, TLOD 400 in 2024 is similar to 200 in 2020.  So there is some degradation of image clarity.  Especially with default TLOD.  I think Ultra preset is 200 TLOD.  To me that's similar to 100 in MSFS 2020.

8 hours ago, Rocky_53 said:

Well, I did the dirty deed at the weekend and Installed Win 11 and MSFS 2024. So for the past three days I've spent reinstalling dozens of apps and addons, still loads more to install! As I literally, wanted a full, clean install. Yesterday I started a quick flight in the PMDG 738, all with default scenery, from Rio De Janeiro. To say I was aghast and disappointed would be an understatement. Yes, the UI has improved in some areas, things seem to be more logically set out, it seems very much smoother, but, what's all this about... when I jump from an external view back into the cockpit, everything is blurry for a second while it loads! Darn awful, ridiculous. But the big issue was the terrain, not just blurry, but unacceptably blurry. I read much about this issue over the past weeks but was convinced it was people's rigs. Wow, with my pretty high end system, I certainly did not expect the kind of issues that I've experienced. The other thing was the clouds, they looked second rate compared to 2020. Also, unless it was my imagination, and this is difficult to describe, but everything looked less 'real' and more 'cartoony.' These were just my initial reactions, even after having trees, grass, rocks, buildings set to ultra or high. I am very unhappy, as I wanted to make this sim work. Today I will follow some further advice on settings, but if things don't change, then I will return to 2020.  Could it be finger trouble at my end? Are there some specific settings I need to know about that affect this? I'd be interested in any suggestions or ideas from anyone who may have some advice or opinions.

If you get the blurries as described, you need to make use of Rolling Cache and significantly increase its size on disk. 🤙