I just bought the Lear 35. I really like it for the most part. I'm not a super big fan of the newer generation of avionics. Though I do like the GTN 750. The flight model seems very sensitive to me. Especially the rudder. Though I may need to tweak my settings for the plane.

44 minutes ago, Flyfaster_MTN002 said:

Thanks! Can confirm that bug in the CJ4 (don't have/use navigraph) as well. Annoying AF.

Oh interesting... so probably an Asobo bug. Yeah it's annoying when you start up from cold and dark, get airborne and you can't load a STAR or IAP.

The premise here was what to get after the Citation X. It seems like the Phenom and the Sovereign+ are strong candidates. What if the question was which larger business jet to get (including the Citation X in the mix)? Would you all still prefer the Phenom and Sovereign?

Like Ryan, I find that sounds are fundamental to the experience and would overlook some poorer textures for better sounds. Basically, I'm wondering how the X (it's not an X+ right?) compares to the other two...

Thank you.

5 hours ago, micstatic said:

I just bought the Lear 35. The flight model seems very sensitive to me. Especially the rudder. Though I may need to tweak my settings for the plane.

Yeah, definitely tweak. I end up doing something for almost every addon, and it’s worth the effort.

The Lear is one of my favorite handling (jet) addons.

It really depends what you're looking for. I had the FSW Learjet 35 before the Citation X and really like the analogue gauges and vintage feel to it. It's also a darn solid product from FSW with many GPS options.

I really want to like the Falcon 50 and had the FSW version in P3D. But I really am not a fan of the GNS-XLS because it does not seem polished enough. The FSW version in P3D had some different addon GPS options available.

In MSFS2020, my go to executive aircraft is the default CJ4. There are some great mods on Flightsim.to for it, and it is a joy to fly with surprisingly good performance (it storms up to 43,000 ft).

13 hours ago, JasonPC said:

It really depends what you're looking for. I had the FSW Learjet 35 before the Citation X and really like the analogue gauges and vintage feel to it. It's also a darn solid product from FSW with many GPS options.

I really want to like the Falcon 50 and had the FSW version in P3D. But I really am not a fan of the GNS-XLS because it does not seem polished enough. The FSW version in P3D had some different addon GPS options available.

What do you feel isn't polished about the GNS-XLS? I've found that once you get used to the UI quirks (which I can only assume are true to the real unit) it's pretty easy to whiz around and I haven't had any major fumbles with it yet.

On 6/29/2026 at 11:25 PM, ryanbatc said:

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There is an upcoming iniBuilds Global 6000 as well as the WT/Microsoft Embraer Praetor - both use Pro Line Fusion avionics. I'm HIGHLY awaiting these two bizjets. FlightFX has a few things up their sleeve as well ;) I almost forgot about the upcoming Just Flight Lear 45!

You also forgot the Xtreme Prototypes Lear25. It can be a real handful to fly, just like the real thing. And it even comes with an 8-track player (also designed by Bill Lear) to get those 70s grooves on. :D

I ended up getting the Skyward Sovereign+ C680. Very happy with the choice!

Thanks, everyone.

22 hours ago, mmcmah said:

What if the question was which larger business jet to get (including the Citation X in the mix)? Would you all still prefer the Phenom and Sovereign?

I personally don’t have any of the Flight FX addons. And it’s because I’m a study level snob. I just don’t have the time or patience for a bunch of very similar civ jets.

So, I end up only buying addons that are regarded as genuinely High Fidelity.

(And just to be perfectly clear: this is a ME problem😁)

I ran the Longitude once it got the AAU update, and even more once it was further upgraded for v2024. And it had everything to do with learning how very deeply the Working Title team simulated the Jet.

Ground handling is pretty good (better than PMDG for sure). And my only real nit pick with it is performance in the flare (and this is common with many MSFS addons).

So if money is a consideration, I’d argue the Longitude is impossible to beat, particularly when on sale.

Based on my experience with the outstanding FSR500, I bought into the Phenom immediately.

I specifically did NOT wait for the Sovereign because it’s the first plane from a new team. And TBH, it’s a subset of the Longitude, so I wasn’t that excited for it.

BUT now that it’s been out and has gotten solid reviews across the board AND is getting a steady stream of meaningful updates, I think it’s in the list for later on.

But TBH, and again: the Lear, regardless of its smaller size, is the sweet spot out of all of them for me. It’s really a “Goldilocks” addon, IMHO.

The Phenom is fun especially with the FBO tool.

Cheers

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