Is it not as much the developer's fault as it is the pirates for their software being illegally available?

Poor me approach?The official after the fact posted explanation and yours was clear.. this was not something that was done out of anything but being ###### and/or frustrated over something you cant control, nor can you stop it and you are both very well aware everyone is aware of piracy and what stealing is.. Therefore the "I just wanted to make people aware" is horse manure.. If there were 6 converts, if its true.. they did it out of fear.. not in honestly 'not understanding all along' STEALING is STEALING and needed someone to explain it to themMy bet is none of them have made any effort to clear their sim or aplologize to any other dev.. I may be wronglike I said, when you reach the other 20K let us knowAwareness and is best served as community joining together in a show of support so everyone has a sense of accomplishment which is not a grandstand event by one entity.. it holds more truth and power that way and has merit

if one entity wishes to organize a well thought out and announced

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Hi buzz63,I happen to agree with Nick. You talk about being constructive, you have FIVE (5) posts here at AVSIM, what have "YOU" done that's constructive here at AVSIM?. You joined in 2005, that's four years ago, you have one post per year, well one post per year with this last one, are you kidding me. Just search the forums and you'll see everything Nick has done to help the flight sim community and not only here at AVSIM.

Nick, you are cleary being nasty & the reality for you is that at every opportunity you will come out and bash Orbx. There is nothing that they do that is ever good enough in your eyes. Your behaviour is pathetic, predictable & boring. :( Why don't you **** off and go do something constuctive.

Poor me approach?The official after the fact posted explanation and yours was clear.. this was not something that was done out of anything but being ###### and/or frustrated over something you cant control, nor can you stop it and you are both very well aware everyone is aware of piracy and what stealing is.. Therefore the "I just wanted to make people aware" is horse manure

I agree Nick this isn't the brightest idea what I've seen in a long time on the net... Amazed that there is still so much amateurism in the so called "payware" development.

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Since we're on the subject of intellectual property, how many add-on developers obtain the required permission to use the name, likeness, trade names, marks, logos, designs, etc of the copyrighted and trademarked properties depicted in their commerical products? If, say Cessna or Boeing or Bendix-King or Garmin chose to issue a cease and desist order to prevent the sale and distribution of commercial products containing unapproved use and depictions of their properties, how would that affect add-on developers?

Hi JayKae,My son really likes that picture of batman you have there, does that come in poster size?. Is the image copyrighted?. Can I download it from the internet?. Is it available for purchase?.Anyone know where I can find this image?.Thanks

Nick, you are cleary being nasty & the reality for you is that at every opportunity you will come out and bash Orbx. There is nothing that they do that is ever good enough in your eyes. Your behaviour is pathetic, predictable & boring. :( Why don't you **** off and go do something constuctive.

Whether disguised as asterisks or not, that language is unacceptable. Let's cut that out please.

Publicity ploy or not, it got everyone's attention and it might even help create more awareness.I don't care that Orbx closed for the day. All I care about is that developers continue to provide great software that I am willing to buy and enjoy.Nick N,I think you are extremely respectable and I really appreciate what you have done. As a developer, I only want the best for and wish you much success. I hope that you can embrace win 7 and Orbx. I have no idea what Orbx has done to you personally, but you are to good of a developer and contributor to give the impression that you don't approve of a great scenery developer.I always respect your opinion but I'm befuddled by what I'm reading.

Publicity ploy or not, it got everyone's attention and it might even help create more awareness.I don't care that Orbx closed for the day. All I care about is that developers continue to provide great software that I am willing to buy and enjoy.Nick N,I think you are extremely respectable and I really appreciate what you have done. As a developer, I only want the best for and wish you much success. I hope that you can embrace win 7 and Orbx. I have no idea what Orbx has done to you personally, but you are to good of a developer and contributor to give the impression that you don't approve of a great scenery developer.I always respect your opinion but I'm befuddled by what I'm reading.

Well, the Orbx followers love to give Nick and GEX a hard time on the Orbx forum, even though it's obvious the approach taken by GEX and Orbx are completely different.I have seen many fs products available on torrent trackers including the Orbx stuff. If you look at the 'comments' section on many if these you can clearly see the level of inteligence and I can conclude that 90% of the pirate downloaders would never consider purchasing the software anyway. If they couldn't get it for free they wouldn't bother at all. Obviously this doesn't make piracy right, but if Orbx seriously thinks all those torrent downloads are genuine lost sales, they are more deluded than I thought. They do like to think of themselves as 'numero uno' in the FS addon world though.............

Good move by Orbx I say. Someone's gotta make a statement about these losers. They can't see the irony that they will ruin their very own hobby.Look, I copied all the tapes and disks I could get my hands on at school in the 80's. Why? Cause it was addictive, exciting, a cool scene. Nothing has changed with today's generation of pirates except the stakes are far higher. They do it cause they can. There was a "Record" button on double tape decks in the 80's and we copied VHS and cassettes cause we could. Nobody took the button away.

Software piracy is stealing. Most people steal because they can't afford to buy legitimately or don't have access to the infrastructure needed to make the purchase (like credit cards for example). If you were poor in a poor country and you wanted something you knew you could never afford, and it was actually easier for you to steal it than to buy it, you'd steal it. This is why Microsoft charge much less for their products in China than they do in the West. Better some return than none and a huge market desperately looking for alternatives (like Linux). Per capita income in the Philippines is US$3,300 pa (CIA Factbook). Do you really expect people in this market to buy an add-on for Flight Simulator for US$33? That's 1% of of average annual income, if you are interested in the math.Then there is the morality issue. If you were poor and everyone you knew was poor, whose interests would you hold paramount? Yours or some faceless company in a country whose per capita income was ten times your own? This of course ignores the inequality that exists in the West; another source of piracy with the added advantage of wider access to technical knowledge and infrastructure. In summary, inequality is the major driver of software piracy and while it exists solutions will remain elusive. Beating your chest and penalising your legitimate customers is counterproductive.Noel.

Yeah, I used to think that way, too. But then you go down the Philippines and you see places like the SM Mall or the Arroyo Mall in Cebu and you quickly realize that, sure, there is a lot of poverty in the Philippines, but there is also a lot of money there, too, to support these brand new fancy malls.

I really had to laugh at the 'poor me' comment. You really just don't get it Nick :(

The Batman image found years ago on the net somewhere but only in that size, as far as copyright goes, back in the day when approached DC did not even bother emailing me back in regards to my question to that extent.