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Barefoot Bandit ! Airplane Thief

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Please provide examples of the 'many, many people' who were 'endangered'. Based on all public information regarding this case... there seems to be no endangerment to any individual(s) outside the kid himself.
So, other than himself, this kid posed NO THREAT WHATSOEVER to another living being (let alone property) by operating more than one aircraft, on more than one occasion, as an unskilled and unlicensed pilot? That's rather optomistic, I'd say...While it is only my opinion, it's fortunate that he was apprehended before the law of averages caught up with him.

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Curious how qualified you are to speak of a persons psychological profile or being, do you practice Psychiatry, or Psychology?
Well, he is a Father, so I am assuming anyone having to do with the Church wouldn't approve of this kids behavior.

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Disregard for.....who?Instead it was crashed by some kid. As you can see, the blatant disregard of rights didn't start with the kid.
HelloRyan one thing you will learn as you get older and gain more experience, is that life does not grant anyone rights.Once you get over that and realize that life is not fair you will be fine.

Well, my own particular view is supported I think by the written statements of our forefathers who apparently assumed that at birth we were endowed with certain inalienable rights. I think the idea is that unfair as life may be, we ought to strive to make it more fair and more in line with the ideal, in so far as that is possible. Our forefathers documentary efforts showed them to be optimists in that direction, don't you think?

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Disregard for.....who?The airplanes he stole, their owners?Rich mans toys (I am poor, I love aviation with all my heart, but you either love it with your all or you have lots of money or both) The cessna 400 owner will likely be okay.Breaking into homes and stealing what's needed for survival.The behavior denotes manners of disregard, but in many acts it's clear he shows regard to his victims by taking what he needs. This is NOT the behavior of a sociopath.That's not to say stealing is right, but it doesn't make somebody a sociopath. A sociopath does what he wants, to the extreme: Complete and total disregard for life and property of others. The kid isn't a sociopath, if you use such labels - you should understand the people and behaviors associated with them.Stealing cars airplanes and boats to get from point a to point b, and stealing food does not a sociopath make.Another perspective:That Cessna 400 owner/'s Gained in the US market profitting the US GDP which is already way more than it's worth. Because the US takes this giant chunk of the worlds economy for itself many people are going to starve to death. They are worthless because the US product is nearly always more desirable, but they're kicked to the dirt because we charge so much that we absorb the better portion of the world's market screwing it for these poor people.All american citizens are guilty, but who's to say anyone's going to own up to that? Americans through their rich lifestyle show blatant disregard for the rights of othersAre We all sociopaths?...That cessna Corvalis could have fed So many families and provided several wells for clean water.Instead it was crashed by some kid. As you can see, the blatant disregard of rights didn't start with the kid.
Absolutely frightening POV. Every hear of the phrase "This is about you"? There is something grossly wrong, in my opinion, with the psyche of people who take a crime and use it as an avenue to air their tirade against society. I see it as thread hijacking. I saw it on 9/11 when people were here mourning what happened, and a few trolls came into the forums with their laundry list of crimes they felt the west and Israel had committed. There is a time and place, that wasn't the time and this isn't the time to show nostalgia for "Robin Hood". The kid committed multiple crimes and was found with a weapon. You don't own a weapon unless you intend to sooner or later use it. The kid was also a deadly weapon in and of himself. I have had flight training and even after 25 years of Flightsim, had my CFI closed his eyes and said--"here, land this thing, just watch out for that playground full of kids down there" he would have been incredibly negligent.Some who comment here don't have much of a clue, IMHO, when it comes to life's lessons. And to question a man of faith regarding his qualifications. Hmmmmmm..... Wait--I know what comes next--a litany of the church's crimes against humanity.Sorry to the rest of the forum, had to get all this off my chest.-John

HelloThe problems start when someones (nations) idea of "Ideal" differs from our own(nation)Governments grant rights, those rights are transient not inalienable and are totally dependant on each nationsability to defend those rights.The last century is full of good examples of this principle works.

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So, other than himself, this kid posed NO THREAT WHATSOEVER to another living being (let alone property) by operating more than one aircraft, on more than one occasion, as an unskilled and unlicensed pilot? That's rather optomistic, I'd say...While it is only my opinion, it's fortunate that he was apprehended before the law of averages caught up with him.
Well, lots of licensed pilots have crashed... killing lots of innocent people. He's unlicensed and clearly never did a thing to get the attention of ATC, never crashed where it would hurt others. Please don't "assign" things that aren't there.He posed no physical risk to anyone that anyone can legitimately prove at this point.

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Don't put this 'kid' on a pedestal; he broke the law, and got caught. He should get the maximum penalty for the crimes he committed.If you were the owner of the Cessna 400 or one of the other aircraft he STOLE and CRASH LANDED you would be singing a very different tune, whether or not you consider owning an aircraft to be a 'rich man's toy'. He stole someone's personal property!

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Well, lots of licensed pilots have crashed... killing lots of innocent people. He's unlicensed and clearly never did a thing to get the attention of ATC, never crashed where it would hurt others. Please don't "assign" things that aren't there.He posed no physical risk to anyone that anyone can legitimately prove at this point.
He had a gun. What do you think he needed it for? To protect himself from bad guys? As far as "never crashed where it would hurt others", the people on the ground were blessed. The kid did not care about anyone or anything other than himself and I suspect had he gotten into trouble and had it been a avoiding a playground full of kids or sacrificing himself, he would have risked the kids.-John
He posed no physical risk to anyone that anyone can legitimately prove at this point.
HelloThe FAA might have a differing view on that.But if what you say is true, it may be the way forward for a lot of us.Just imagine no need to worry about maintenance bills, licences , medicals, pretty much fly anything that takes your fancy.best bit is no landing charges just crash it wherever you like.Its a victimless crime , Till he lands on your front porch.

So what if an airplane is a rich mans toy, so is a car honestly. Grand theft is described as anything over $2000 and an airplane is worth more than that and he crashed at least 3 of them. The fact is that whatever goes up, must come down and if you honestly believe he would have done what is necessary to ensure that it didn't fall on top of anyone else, you are dreaming. He willfully broke into people's houses even though he only took what he needed. Personally, I think his mom helped him in his endevors to stay out of jail and should be put away too for aiding and abetting.

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Throw him in jail for a long time and then forbid him to make any profit from his misdeedsHe should never be allowed to hold a pilots license, or be allowed to earn a living in the security industrysuch as how to make airplanes less "vunerable to thieves"Never hold a boat license , a car license. Anyone who would think that commiting such crimes is in anyway cool or inspiring shouldn't be able to fly either.Ever.they're not right - in the head ....

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Of course, each and every one of you are without 'sin'... having never broken a single law, correct? Perhaps all motor vehicle offenses should now be a criminal offense that has mandatory prison time... because speeding (example) threatens your life as well as the lives of any passengers, and anyone else who may end up in the path of your vehicle.Bet you don't see it that way... now do you?I find it amazing how people can justify being as harsh as possible with regards to punishment for others, even to the point of implying flat out falsehoods to further bolster their desire for harshness... yet think that anything they might do to be of insignficant consequence.This boy hasn't posed any more dangerous a threat than a person speeding down the road (a crime)... and perhaps even less.

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Well, lots of licensed pilots have crashed... killing lots of innocent people. He's unlicensed and clearly never did a thing to get the attention of ATC, never crashed where it would hurt others. Please don't "assign" things that aren't there.He posed no physical risk to anyone that anyone can legitimately prove at this point.
Well. That certainly set me straight. I simply chose the wrong point of view, didn't I? For a minute, I thought your defense of him was...admiration? But now I see that you were merely correcting a sadly uninformed opinion. :( Oh, it's an important lesson I've learned here today. But what can I do? When you're right, you're right, aren't you Ed? Thanks for your help and please have a pleasant evening. Seriously... :(

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Of course, each and every one of you are without 'sin'... having never broken a single law, correct? Perhaps all motor vehicle offenses should now be a criminal offense that has mandatory prison time... because speeding (example) threatens your life as well as the lives of any passengers, and anyone else who may end up in the path of your vehicle.Bet you don't see it that way... now do you?I find it amazing how people can justify being as harsh as possible with regards to punishment for others, even to the point of implying flat out falsehoods to further bolster their desire for harshness... yet think that anything they might do to be of insignficant consequence.This boy hasn't posed any more dangerous a threat than a person speeding down the road (a crime)... and perhaps even less.
Ed-I find your position not consistant with your past positions on morals including piracy.If an 11 year old nonlicensed/untrained kid got in a car, made his/her trip without killing anyone would you consider that a success story and not a threat to innocent life-let alone breaking the law? For some reason this one worked out-but the odds were that it shouldn't have.What are the chances of an untrained person flying an unfamilair high performance stolen aircraft following no aviation rules not doing injury to innocent people on the ground or in the air-let alone that they are breaking number of laws? I have 1/2 hour of time in a C400 and lots of ratings/time but would never consider getting in one and doing what he did.If he had collided with an airliner over Florida with great loss of life, or lost control of this very high performance aircraft over Miami when he encountered ifr conditions killing a bunch of people sleeping in their houses on the ground would that have changed your mind?Is there a full moon/sunspot out tonight?-cause I am really having trouble following a number of arguments in this thread.

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