August 12, 201114 yr I loaded the MD11 at FACT std weather, during the day and showed 95 to 100 FPS not doing anything for 2 minutes. I then loaded NGX and saw 70FPs dipping every 15 seconds to 45FPS then back to around 70FPS and then dipping again, and so on it went. Something is creating the dipping as if its a current drop,very strange. Are you serious ? Complaining about getting at least 45 FPS !!??? You must be kidding !!! C2Q QX9770 3.4GHz | Coolermaster V6 | ASUS P5Q | 4GB DDR2 1066 Kingston HyperX | XFX ATI Radeon HD 4850 1Gb | HDD 500GB SEAGATE Barracuda SATA | Windows 7 Ultimate x64
August 12, 201114 yr Just had a opportunity to try it and I get about 6-7fps more in the virtual cockpit....every little bit helps :) Edit: Will try with the MD-11 and J41 and report back with results. Edit Edit: Ok so I tried the MD-11 got the same results, also tried the J41 and got between 7-9fps and just for kicks I tried the Concorde-X (yes I know it's not PMDG) but got the same results as the 747...weird. Then I tried actually loading up the 747 in flight then loading the NGX, same results just selecting the 747 then switching in select aircraft menu just not as stable. So hopefully the developers have something to say about this. Ian Paxton The lights are dimming on FSX and only getting brighter for XPX.
August 12, 201114 yr Are you serious ? Complaining about getting at least 45 FPS !!??? You must be kidding !!! Yes, but thats at Cape town international,not alot of buldings and AI I suppose.
August 12, 201114 yr The 737 is the only PMDG aircraft I have at the moment so am unable to enter the testings. However, is it at all possible that once loading the 737 is achieved then there are some instruments or aspects of the cockpit that are not completely functioning following the load from the 747? Just a thought. HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
August 12, 201114 yr I guess no one has tried this by loading one version of the 737, such as the -900 and then loading the version you want to fly, such as the -800WL. I know that doesn't sound like it makes sense but what can it hurt? Obviously I can't try it right now or I would. Edward Smoker Sr.
August 12, 201114 yr I tried this few minutes ago using the 747-400x and didn't see any difference, same 13-14FPS No magic cure for me either, however I'm pretty happy with where I'm at so I wasn't expecting a miracle. Might try it on my laptop just for kicks!I guess no one has tried this by loading one version of the 737, such as the -900 and then loading the version you want to fly, such as the -800WL. I know that doesn't sound like it makes sense but what can it hurt? Obviously I can't try it right now or I would.Gotta be worth a try, or did PMDG recommend not doing that? Ed Haslam
August 12, 201114 yr Would still be very interested to see some benchmarking on this. Also be great to hear what PMDG have to say on the matter; I know you're watching! i7 2600k @ 5.1Ghz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600Mhz, EVGA GTX 580 @ 950MHz, OCZ Vertex II 240GB, ASUS Xonar DG, Thermaltake Toughpower XT 875W PSU, Antec KÜHLER 620 W/C, Corsair 600T SE White My FS9 Screens - http://fs9screens.blogspot.com/ Callum Richardson
August 12, 201114 yr Gotta be worth a try, or did PMDG recommend not doing that? I can't hunt in it right now as I don't have it handy; however, I recall the Introduction manual said not to do this. At best I think it would cause a crash but who knows? This whole discovery is interesting although I have to agree with the people asking for a benchmark of some sort. Edward Smoker Sr.
August 12, 201114 yr Author No magic cure for me either, however I'm pretty happy with where I'm at so I wasn't expecting a miracle. Might try it on my laptop just for kicks! Gotta be worth a try, or did PMDG recommend not doing that? PMDG Doesn't recommend reloading the SAME aircraft. If its different / different engine type you should be finey.
August 12, 201114 yr The infamous default flight issue perhaps. Precisely why Flight 1 produce a safe start up flight. The sim gleans important information from the default flight. My guess is you are first loading an add-on that FSX can use successfully for initialisation. When you switch to the NGX, FSX smiles upon you. Loading a default first, or an add-on thats known to please FSX [or FS9] is a common practise. I may be talking nonsense of course. Just a notion. Martin Wilby
August 13, 201114 yr That may be a good point, Martin; however, the comment in the Introduction manual pp 22 first bullet would seem to imply that is wrong. I'm still waiting for some good ol' fashioned testing. Edward Smoker Sr.
August 13, 201114 yr That may be a good point, Martin; however, the comment in the Introduction manual pp 22 first bullet would seem to imply that is wrong. I'm still waiting for some good ol' fashioned testing. You're right Ed. I'm just surprised that we haven't heard anything from PMDG, unless I've missed something. Is there anyone who can test this procedure using the Flight 1's start up procedure, as Martin suggested? HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
August 13, 201114 yr You're right Ed. I'm just surprised that we haven't heard anything from PMDG, unless I've missed something. Is there anyone who can test this procedure using the Flight 1's start up procedure, as Martin suggested? Id be glad to if someone could tell me what the "Flight 1" startup procedure is? Also anyone actually getting a gain from this needs to at least post some screens please, with settings place ect.. please. Jason Aerts
August 13, 201114 yr If this is the cause of your FPS increase, then it's something that's been known about since FS9's early days. The Captain Sim 737 has this issue for some, as do a number of Flight 1 aircraft. It doesn't have to be the Flight 1 start up flight, in can be just a default aircraft, with engines on, and avionics set to nav, not gps. It can cause all kinds of anomalies,like avionics not working properly, lights not working, performance suffering etc. I tried it last night with the default 747, loaded it up, and then the NGX next, it did seen to me to increase FPS. In theory though, the correct way to do it is to load up and click fly for the default, and then use the "Alt" key menu to select the NGX. I know PMDG seem to dispute this old advice in the manuals, so it would be interesting to know why they regrd it as fallacious. Martin Wilby
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