My PC specs are I7 2600K running at 4Ghz, 8GB 1800 DDR3 and a GTX570 running Win7 64bitI get 15fps and sometimes as low as 9 in the PMDG J41.AI traffic is at 20% John Venema over on their forums simply refuses to acknowledge that there is a performance problem with YBBN saying that there are one person with a Core Duo running it at 25fps (Bullsh!t). Frankly his attitude towards his customers leave a lot to be desired. Anyone else struggling at YBBN?

Yes. I uninstalled it about as fast as I had installed it. It's the worst performing scenery I have ever seen.

Orbx YBBN really isn't a fps charming airport. But you can enhance it a bit if you deselect some items in the Control Panel and run the autogen rather low-ish. However, you may get a very fast Brisbane with Ant's YBBN over at OZx. Kind of silly when you've bought the payware, I know. But the fps are great.

Orbx YBBN really isn't a fps charming airport. But you can enhance it a bit if you deselect some items in the Control Panel and run the autogen rather low-ish. However, you may get a very fast Brisbane with Ant's YBBN over at OZx. Kind of silly when you've bought the payware, I know. But the fps are great.

Thanx for the headsup. Having a look.

This http://forum.avsim.net/forum/471-the-unofficial-orbx-forum/ opened here recently. A safe house for Orbx users

OrbX YBBN is a bit of a killer if you have all the options enabled. The Brisbane metropolitan area is heavy in FSX anyway, and heavy in OrbX AU. A lot of autogen objects etc really take their toll. You need to turn off some of the detail in the control panel. It is not so bad then. I find dusk and dawn can be a little choppy at times.Make sure you have the latest OrbX library installed, as a new version of OrbX Central brings a switch to turn off night lighting effects. OK, so things may not look so nice as with them on, but the frame hit is far less...Andrew

It's probably true that there is a guy with a coreduo running at 25fps.what's not being mentioned is that he's probably got all settings on the floor.ie no traffic no lighting hardly anything turned on,seems pointless designing scenery that is just too heavy for the average system.which nowadays a 4.2ghz is.just like mine.I don't own ybbn,but do own PNW,PF,NRM and CRM.it does push your rig to the limit if you try and match setting with a GEX,UTX based fsx.which i have now gone back to.steve-0

Edited February 8, 201214 yr by stevehowe

I wouldn't give too much on that Core2Duo statement. As said, the Control Panel offers some options to be disabled and tested for their fps impact. The day/night tweaker from Orbx was mentioned too and is a HUGE tip indeed.If it doesn't help, Ant's airport will give you a nice rendition and plenty of fps I think.

I installed SP4, the new libs and the 121 patch for YBBN.I must say that with some of my other aircraft, the A2A B17 for instance, FPS now lingers around the 15 mark looking at the terminal building and into town. After TO on RW01 once over the see FPS jumps to 25. With the J41, which is a FPS eater by itself, I get 11 doing the same and once every now and then a dip to 8 or 9. Pity though as my VA has a route going in there which I will have to fly often. I'm going to give Ant's rendition a whirl and see what happens.

I think Ant's rendition will blow your fps to the limiter maximum. You just have to be aware that you will loose detail of course.

I installed SP4, the new libs and the 121 patch for YBBN.

Did you try that day/night switcher from Orbx? It helps a lot on the fps. It should be available with the latest libs of yours. If you double click 'day' it will force the day setting again, just in case.

My PC specs are I7 2600K running at 4Ghz, 8GB 1800 DDR3 and a GTX570 running Win7 64bitI get 15fps and sometimes as low as 9 in the PMDG J41.AI traffic is at 20%John Venema over on their forums simply refuses to acknowledge that there is a performance problem with YBBN saying that there are one person with a Core Duo running it at 25fps (Bullsh!t). Frankly his attitude towards his customers leave a lot to be desired.Anyone else struggling at YBBN?

Ya, uninstalled that Airport, it has decent quality but the FPS is awful and NO WHERE near what John V claims. That airport at night is literally unflyable with anything like Js41 or NGX.O ya and if you dont have the latest FSUIPC Registered youre going to get g3d.dll CTD there too, all I can say is have fun dealing with that airport, it is a pain.For the NGX/Js41 type of ops go buy Fly Tampa or FSDT. There airport looks 10x better then ORBX (my opinon) and the FPS is WAY WAY WAY higher.

John Venema over on their forums simply refuses to acknowledge that there is a performance problem with YBBN saying that there are one person with a Core Duo running it at 25fps (Bullsh!t).

Well, I hate to say it but he's not lying because the person getting 25 FPS was me and it was in the LDS-767. It was actually 25 to 30 FPS in the screen shots below. This was the post where I was complaining about not getting more than 25fps. Check my screen shots for proof of FPS on the VC and exterior."I should have worded that differently. In NON FTX areas, autogen levels between Normal and Extremely Dense dont make much difference on my rig, presumably becuase stock or GEX'ed stuff isn't as heavily annotated with autogen as FTX areas are. There maybe a few FPS increase from going from Extrememly Dense to Normal with stock scenery, but its very small.Now, I would agree that in FTX areas anything that is higher than Normal, like Very Dense or Extremely Dense autogen can have a HUGE impact on performance. That I will agree with since one time I tried Extremely Dense in the Portland area just to see what it looked like and my FPS were in the low teens.That being said, the performance increase from lowering from Normal to None can increase performance a little but a very small increase, like 3 FPS, where as the increase in going from Extremely Dense to Normal would be huge, probably 10 FPS or more.Just for fun, I did a quick test at YBBN with a shot on final in the VC and a shot near the side of the airport from external view. Both were done with Normal and No autogen.1st shot w/autogen at Normal gave average 25.8 FPS2nd shot without autogen gave an average 28.23rd shot w/autogen from spot view gave an average of 29.3 FPS4th shot without autogen from spot view gave an average of 32.0 FPSSo, I can see that by turning autogen off and going from Normal to None gives an average of about 3 FPS more in both the VC facing the airport as well as a 3 FPS increase on average in spot view with airport in background. The increase could be more or less depending on the a/c used. For my test I was using the LDS767 and all the options turned off in the control panel except Airside Objects 1 was ticked.I repeated the same test at night but for some reason got about a 5 FPS haircut right off the top with or without autogen as some users have reported. Basically the result were in line with the daytime but 5 FPS lower across the board and that was without the street lights turned on."Anyway, this was with most of the YBBN options in the control panel turned to their lowest settings, ie. vehicles, clutter, etc., but on a well turned system with the proper adjustments it's possible to get ok FPS at that airport, just dont expect to crank everything to the fullest and get the same FPS as what I am showing.

Edited February 8, 201214 yr by cmpbellsjc

O ya and if you dont have the latest FSUIPC Registered youre going to get g3d.dll CTD there too, all I can say is have fun dealing with that airport, it is a pain.

You don't need the payware version of FSUIPC.As for YBBN, IMO is one of the best airports ever created for FSX. You just need to lower the settings or get a faster computer. Like many ORBX airports, they were created with future hardware in mind.Lower the AGLower the water settngLower the settings in the control panelDisable light polesThat should help.

Edited February 8, 201214 yr by DJJose

As for YBBN, IMO is one of the best airports ever created for FSX. You just need to lower the settings or get a faster computer. Like many ORBX airports, they were created with future hardware in mind.

Yeah I agree with that Jose, YBBN is the highest impacting Orbx airport on my system too, and I remember searching the Orbx forums for info about framerate issues but only saw a couple of discussions which were not very long (probably cut short for obvious reasons we have otherwise discussed here).What I did was turn down most/all the options in the YBBN control panel, and it really improved things but yet still left a pretty darn nice looking airport, which beats out most any other large airport I have, even with all the control panel settings off, a good tradeoff for now and I am sure eventually hardware will allow us to run it with all eyecandy on, but it certainly provides me a warning that I cannot run all Orbx scenery at 25+ FPS as I had thought until this scenery.

Edited February 8, 201214 yr by kludger

I almost never go to Brisbane or Melbourne, my system turns in to a slide show unless I shut stuff off the scenery, lower my settings to a point where all the great work that is done in the airport can't be seen. I don't think there is a point to having an airport where you can't keep the settings up at dense or very dense to get the benefit of all the detail. If I don't get a min. of 16 fps what's the point. With my sliders at dense and very dense I get 9 fps for these airports.I think Orbx tries to defend their work on these airport too much instead of just saying if you want to see all the great stuff in these airports you will need a very robust system or just turn down the settings and you will be OK but miss out on the detail.I have an i7 920 2.7 Ghz (no OC), 16 Gig RAM, 1.7 Mb GTX 260 video card.