June 29, 201213 yr I would make this a Poll if I knew how... My point is... Do you use/like the mouse control option in MS FLIGHT? I ask because: 1) While I have a Saitek x52 Pro and look forward for a good pair of Saitek Rudder pedals, I use the mouse control most of the time, unless I am up for aerobatics... 2) I have a pilot license and fly for real, and I never used that sort of input on other simulators, with the remarkable exception of Condor Soaring, where the mouse control option has been programmed very professionaly and is also my preferred way of controlling the gliders, specially during those long XCountry flights... The "mouse for flying" implementation in MS FLIGHT feels excellent to me. If someone is going to give her/his contribution to this thread, answering Yes/No to the main question, it would be great if she/he added info about her/his RL flying experience, not because I am saying you're not entitled to a valid oppinion if you do not fly for real, but simply because it does make a difference having RL flying experience in terms of evaluating the performance of this input method... 3) As I stated at another thread, I believe the code of the "mouse for flying" option in MS FLIGHT is one of the very good things about this flight simulation game, not only because IMHO it was carefully programmed, and you should really look at the effects by observing how the control column/yoke and rudder pedals react to your mouse inputs, but because it gives users with less margin for investment in hardware, or simply looking for some fun using their laptops somewhere, the chance to experience a very realistic feel of what it is to control an aircraft without being tied to fancy hardware.... Looking forward for you oppinions.... ;-) Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
June 29, 201213 yr I've used the mouse briefly, playing around with the Mustang once, and accidently from time to time when bumping the spacebar. But mainly I use my X-52 with the twisty rudder, so 'No'. ~180hrs all up, ~75hrs PIC. Mike Dryden
June 29, 201213 yr Yes or no, hm, well... sometimes. I do agree that the mouse mode is done very well, but flying with my joystick simply feels better. I do however use mouse mode as some sort of AP every now and then or when I can't get the plane trimmed well: a simple switch to mouse mode and the plane is trimmed perfectly in no time. But usually: joystick and rudder pedals. So I guess the answer should be no.
June 29, 201213 yr I've not actually used it, yet. is it any good? I can't bring myslef to fly a plane with a mouse, any more than I can play racing games with a joystick..just seems...wrong (imo) JAKE EYREIt's a small step from the sublime to the ridiculous...Napoleon Bonaparte
June 29, 201213 yr No, I use a Microsoft Precision 2 Joystick. I would prefer to use a yoke but I do not have one. I would not dream of using a Mouse for Heavens sake.
June 29, 201213 yr No real life piloting here. Though having used joysticks on the Atari 2600, C64, and 286 through to the present, they're my preferred input device for any sort of flying (terrestrial or otherwise). During the late 80s and into early 2000 I played pretty much every Dynamix, Microprose, and Logitech sim. Not to mention Wingcommander 1-3, X-Wing/TIE Fighter, Descent 1-3, Freespace 1-2, and probably some more I am forgetting. I gave the mouse a bit of a try in Flight, but it's just far to constrained compared to a stick. If I'm being lazy or just popping in for a quick AOTD, I'll use a 360 pad. At first I was terrible with it, but over a few hours it become second nature pretty quickly. But for proper flying I always clear the desk and plug in my Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X. I picked it up for $30, and it's pretty hard to beat at that price. It's clearly no $500 Warthog, but I'll take what I can get.
June 29, 201213 yr I tried mouse flying when I first downloaded Flight, and was surprised that it was easy to fly with a mouse. I like to do crosswind landings, and I felt that a Joystick or Yoke and rudder pedals was the only way to do it properly. I had a couple of yokes which I threw out when I stopped flying FS9 5 years ago, and didn't want to buy another yoke, since I hated the hassle of screwing it on top of my computer desk, and removing it after flying, so I just bought a Logitech 3D Pro with the twist for the rudder and it works very well. Private Pilot, 600+ PIC
June 29, 201213 yr My point is... Do you use/like the mouse control option in MS FLIGHT? No. I tried it briefly when my joystick died and I was waiting for a replacement to arrive. It seemed to toss the plane all around the sky, which was probably just a matter of me over-controlling, but I wasn't yanking the mouse all around the desk, either. I probably could have adapted to it in time, learning to use it, but I don't care to do that when I have more realistic alternatives. The "mouse for flying" implementation in MS FLIGHT feels excellent to me. If someone is going to give her/his contribution to this thread, answering Yes/No to the main question, it would be great if she/he added info about her/his RL flying experience, not because I am saying you're not entitled to a valid oppinion if you do not fly for real, but simply because it does make a difference having RL flying experience in terms of evaluating the performance of this input method... Most of my actual PIC time is in small Cessnas, the 172 primarily. I've got a sprinkling of low-wing time in various aircraft, a couple of hours here and there. I also have spent around 30 hours in the left seat of P-3Cs, but that's just cruising around off-shore or flying legs on a couple of transits over the Pacific and Indian Oceans, with a qualified pilot in the right seat and an FE between us, both keeping an eye on me. I'm certainly not qualified on those! 3) As I stated at another thread, I believe the code of the "mouse for flying" option in MS FLIGHT is one of the very good things about this flight simulation game, not only because IMHO it was carefully programmed, and you should really look at the effects by observing how the control column/yoke and rudder pedals react to your mouse inputs, but because it gives users with less margin for investment in hardware, or simply looking for some fun using their laptops somewhere, the chance to experience a very realistic feel of what it is to control an aircraft without being tied to fancy hardware.... I think it's great that it's there, because it does open things up to a much larger potential audience who may not want to buy specialized controller hardware, or who may not be able to use it because of mobility needs. I just don't intend to use it myself.
June 29, 201213 yr No I do not use the mouse as it messes up your flight if you forget and move the mouse for something else. I will fly with prop effect off and clear skies untill they get some more features in.
June 29, 201213 yr Yes, I use the mouse and like it. Having said that, I only fly MS Flight on my notebook for travel, so the mouse saves a lot of baggage. My main flight sim is a Joystick / Throttle /Rudder equipped FSX rig. Always remember to Find Your FUN! -Bob
June 29, 201213 yr The flight models are so good in Flight that a mouse is out of the question. I propose people try this sim with a yoke and peddles versus a mouse to truly appreciate the feel of flying an aircraft. Microsoft hands down accomplished the concept of 'FLIGHT' in this effort and a mouse just takes away from that unless you a novice which this effort attracts as well. I'd never use a mouse to virtually experience flight, that just doesn't make since... FS2020 Alienware Aurora R11 10th Gen Intel Core i7 10700F - Windows 11 Home 32GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB - Pimax Crystal Light VR
June 29, 201213 yr same like the last few folks here. generally NO except unfortunately as AP replacement when I just cannot sit 1hr in front of the comp. unfortunately my flight time is very restricted so I am sort of dependent on the AP which will hopefully come soon. right now I started to use the skip function - much to my dislike! Phil Leaven i5 10600KF, 32 GB 3200 RAM, ASUS 4070 12GB EVO, Asus ROG Z490-H, 2 WD Black NVME for each Win11 (500GB) and MSFS (1TB), Rolling Cache 16GB, Photogrammetry always OFF, Live Weather and Live Traffic always ON, Res 2560x1440 on 27"
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