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The X-Plane 10 video looks amazing--what's *wrong* w/ X-plane?

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I've had the sense folks who have tried X-Plane on the whole end up not liking it over FSX/P3D. This video looks amazing from the advertisement on avsim home page now:

 

X-Plane 10 official video by Lupine Productions - August 2012

 

 

For those who have taken the plunge and went back to FSX as your default sim, what are the main issues behind that decision?

Noel

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It's not as polished as FSX but I think it's the way ahead. For the sake of a few gigs download you can try it yourself you know!

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At least last time when I tried it user interface was pretty difficult to use compared to FSX. I do like its flight model though, if there were more high quality addons for it I sure would regularly use it.

At least last time when I tried it user interface was pretty difficult to use compared to FSX.

+1

Florian

It looks nice but its not the leap I expect from 'the next sim'. I envision Xplane 12 or 13 being advanced enough over FSX with some addons to be worth switching to.

There's a great deal to recommend it, including the feel of the flight model with the best payware, and also night flying - night lighting and overall visuals blow FSX away. The helicopter flight model is stunningly good. But scenery development is far behind FSX right now and the pace of scenery development is disturbingly slow. Urban landscapes are just awful. It's frustrating, because there are plenty of moments when the sensation of flight is better than MSFS, but the suspension of disbelief - the "you are there" feeling - is often missing. Somebody recently described it as a technical simulator, which is accurate at this point. It could be more than it is right now, and I hope the visuals get the love they need. I'd be tempted to switch completely to a more refined, future version - but not to the current one, not yet at least.


Alan Ampolsk

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There's a great deal to recommend it, including the feel of the flight model with the best payware, and also night flying - night lighting and overall visuals blow FSX away. The helicopter flight model is stunningly good. But scenery development is far behind FSX right now and the pace of scenery development is disturbingly slow. Urban landscapes are just awful. It's frustrating, because there are plenty of moments when the sensation of flight is better than MSFS, but the suspension of disbelief - the "you are there" feeling - is often missing. Somebody recently described it as a technical simulator, which is accurate at this point. It could be more than it is right now, and I hope the visuals get the love they need. I'd be tempted to switch completely to a more refined, future version - but not to the current one, not yet at least.

 

These are in line with my thoughts, too. I loved the night flying... VC's for payware look amazing, and if you get the right modeler, the fde's seem right on. Scenery and ATC is a huge downside for me. Even large airports in XP10 that aren't big cities are terribly vacant. KDLH my home airport (runway over 10,000ft) lacks any buildings etc. Their scenery looks like FS9 default imho...

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The thing that really got in the way of me enjoying XP10 was the interface. Good god it's VERY unfriendly for a new user.

Am I thick? I can't find a link to the vid??

Keithy George

The interface has been changed recently and, at least for me, it is quite easy once you learn the basics.

Flight model is great, night flying has been mentioned and there is quite good default weather engine.

ATC is still far behind FSX, however it is not a big deal for me as I fly almost exclusively online.

So that it is about add on scenery and planes. There are some considerable improvements in the last couple of weeks. Aerosoft is very active in bringing payware airports (Amsterdam, Hamburg) and there is a lot of freeware available which can easily be compared to some lower level payware from FSX.

Most importantly there are existing and coming quality payware aircraft: Ramzzess B777 is great and JRollon CRJ200 maybe even better. Hager's Airbuses are also good. IXEG B737 (when it is released) seems to be just great.

And as soon as those like PMDG will jump the train, there is no more any question...

 

It is also very visible that the code is more modern than FSX. It is quite easy to have 30+ framerate on "average" hardware - and without endless tweeks or CTDs. The limit currently is 32 bit memory, which will change in 10.20, which will be 64 bit and hopefully come before Christmas.

 

These are in line with my thoughts, too. I loved the night flying... VC's for payware look amazing, and if you get the right modeler, the fde's seem right on. Scenery and ATC is a huge downside for me. Even large airports in XP10 that aren't big cities are terribly vacant. KDLH my home airport (runway over 10,000ft) lacks any buildings etc. Their scenery looks like FS9 default imho...

 

There is quite good freeware one: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=17635

Jan Betlach
 

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No seasons

No landmarks

Bad AI engine

Bad ATC

No airport buildings

Bad autogen usage

No ORBX and RealAir availability

 

That's what's wrong with it.

No seasons

No landmarks

No airport buildings

Bad autogen usage

No ORBX and RealAir availability

 

That's what's wrong with it.

That, and the amount of money spent on FSX :rolleyes: .

Florian

Lol, +1. Although I have spent a lot on XP add ons too, but it never looked right.

Maybe some day x-plane will have a real virtual cockpit. Awkward to use, and loading planes is a joke.

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