I give in:

 

I was fascinated by that dreamfleet 727 back in FS9   PLUS   I have a flightdeck environment with a third voice (the engineer's voice).

 

C'mon PMDG, forget about that 777 (it's too automatic, anyway).

how about a little market research for Ryan from PMDG, lets say if a 727-200 from PMDG is released after or at same year as airbus or 777 (to not confirm any rumors) will you buy it with a similar price as 737?

 

Ryan you mention the MD-11 as old but the DC-6 is even older yet is being done?

 

I'll tell you why this kind of logic doesn't work here - a poll of forum users is actually a pretty tiny slice of our customer base and it's a highly unscientific way to try to gather data. We have our sales figures from the past and that's the best evidence there is for us. A DC-6 and 727 aren't in the same league honestly - systems-wise on a 727 we'd basically be doing everything that something like the NGX or 777 requires minus the FMC and glass displays - that's still a ton of work. The DC-6 is a project some of the team who aren't involved heavily in the big airliner projects wanted to work on. Is it going to sell as much as the NGX or 777? Probably not, but it also doesn't take up anywhere near the same amount of development cost.

I heard they plan to do it after the A380

 

 

You raise an interesting point though..

 

An PMDG A380 for FSX?? 

 

That would be absolutely spectacular.

Can anyone imagine a concorde from pmdg?!?!?!?!?

 

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The fslabs Concorde is excellent.

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Can anyone imagine a concorde from pmdg?!?!?!?!?

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Pretty much already done. The Flightsimlabs Concorde X is one of the most incredible aircraft available for FSX and is every bit as good as PMDG products.  The only problem with it is that the aircraft is so complex that it quickly reaches FSX limitations, therefore the flight engineers panel is not functional in the VC (although it is modeled in 3d), the VC graphics aren't high definition, and you must be very careful with graphics settings and add-on usage or you will experience OOM errors.

I actually would love if if we did a 727 - my dad flew it from all 3 seats and it was his favorite airplane over his career. I flew on them a ton as a kid.

 

Unfortunately though, I don't think it would sell well enough to justify the development time at this point - they're only in use with cargo airlines and we've been down this road before with the MD-11.

 

 

At some point PMDG will run out of "popular" aircrafts to develop. What then?

Hmmm, for me their next greatest project, after the 777, could well be the 787 :-)

 

Imagine how nice it would be to have a 787 with the quality that PMDG has given us in all of their Boeing familiy add-ons!

Hmmm, for me their next greatest project, after the 777, could well be the 787 :-)

 

Imagine how nice it would be to have a 787 with the quality that PMDG has given us in all of their Boeing familiy add-ons!

That will come at some point they've said I think.

At some point PMDG will run out of "popular" aircrafts to develop. What then?

 

If they ever manage to make every single "popular" aircraft, I think they will be able to start over. Look at the time between 737v1 and 737NGX.

I'll tell you why this kind of logic doesn't work here - a poll of forum users is actually a pretty tiny slice of our customer base and it's a highly unscientific way to try to gather data. We have our sales figures from the past and that's the best evidence there is for us. A DC-6 and 727 aren't in the same league honestly - systems-wise on a 727 we'd basically be doing everything that something like the NGX or 777 requires minus the FMC and glass displays - that's still a ton of work. The DC-6 is a project some of the team who aren't involved heavily in the big airliner projects wanted to work on. Is it going to sell as much as the NGX or 777? Probably not, but it also doesn't take up anywhere near the same amount of development cost.

 

 

Quick question Ryan, you mentioned that previous sales were the deciding factor. But as I had posted under another topic (with limited knowledge of the facts) Couldn't it be that the MD-11 didn't do well due to marketting and loss of interest over the years of development? Coming closer to the release of the NGX there was alot of hype and anticipation not only because the NGX was soon to come but because the NGX provided a level of "realism" that has never been seen before. In addition to this it was one of the first 737 simulations entirely for FSX at a point were most users were migrating to FSX?

 

I firmly understand the reasoning for not wanting to journey down this road again due to past experiences but is there any data that shows people will feel the same way today? FSX has gain many users since then and some are seeing the MD-11 for the first time and inquiring about it.  I am not sure if people are still buying it ( I guess you would have that info) but this raises an interesting topic.  How do you survey a community on what they want when only a percentage post their views on forums? Some simply read reviews and then they buy, others ask alot more questions. I guess its a tricky situation for developers to gauge which product will do well and which wouldn't.

Quick question Ryan, you mentioned that previous sales were the deciding factor. But as I had posted under another topic (with limited knowledge of the facts) Couldn't it be that the MD-11 didn't do well due to marketting and loss of interest over the years of development? Coming closer to the release of the NGX there was alot of hype and anticipation not only because the NGX was soon to come but because the NGX provided a level of "realism" that has never been seen before. In addition to this it was one of the first 737 simulations entirely for FSX at a point were most users were migrating to FSX?

 

I firmly understand the reasoning for not wanting to journey down this road again due to past experiences but is there any data that shows people will feel the same way today? FSX has gain many users since then and some are seeing the MD-11 for the first time and inquiring about it.  I am not sure if people are still buying it ( I guess you would have that info) but this raises an interesting topic.  How do you survey a community on what they want when only a percentage post their views on forums? Some simply read reviews and then they buy, others ask alot more questions. I guess its a tricky situation for developers to gauge which product will do well and which wouldn't.

 

I don't think so - the 747 that came before the MD-11 was a huge seller and still is. People just like that aircraft a lot more than they like the MD-11. Also - the MD-11 was heavily pirated in the first few days after release and that absolutely did play a factor. It used the same copy protection scheme that the 747 did and as a consequence the crackers knew how to break it right off the bat. We've fixed that aspect of the products with the newer system in use in the J41 and NGX but still - it's very hard to justify spending years developing something that we're not sure is going to sell well. People here have families and their livelihoods depend on these products selling well - just an unfortunate truth in business. The MD-11 while being a great product that we're very proud of nonetheless did nearly kill the company financially. If the NGX had sold poorly after it I wouldn't be here talking to you about any of this right now - no joke.

(...) People here have families and their livelihoods depend on these products selling well - just an unfortunate truth in business. The MD-11 while being a great product that we're very proud of nonetheless did nearly kill the company financially. If the NGX had sold poorly after it I wouldn't be here talking to you about any of this right now - no joke.

 

 

That's why I'd never get one of those pirated copies. Buy it (legally) or leave it.

I would like to see PMDG re-do their 1900C/D for FSX with full system simulation.

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