Well said Dutch. I agree with all you said.  And thanks again for your pressurization fix. That's some really nice work.I remember your correspondence with Captain Lou to gain insight into how this antiquated pressurization system worked on the 727. And you sure got it.  It still baffles me a bit. I need to take some time  to really understand how to operate it correctly.

The 9 mods installed, I went even further and got a 727 sound pack from TSS and installed a double INS. I now have a really nice 727. Of course with all CS planes, the graphics are really nice.

So for  those who want a 727 for FSX, get it on sale and install all the patches. It makes a very realistic 727. But me forewarned, there's some work involved to get it that way. If you do it though, you'll have a nice add on.

Is this turning into a 727 admiration thread?

If so, give Adam Murphy's extensive JT8D soundset a try. Excellent from startup to shutdown!

 

 

 

The FDE mods for CS' 727 are intriguing. Might try them on Tom Ruths model...

A link to where these mods for the CS727 are, please?

Great idea, is there a list of the mods for the 727 so anybody looking for improvement has the options?

 

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The various bugs, fixes, and discussions about them are all here (along with much other comment):

 

http://captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=727IIgeneral

 

I think you can read everything as a guest but need to register to post.  I could be wrong about that.

 

Dutch

 

Oh, and Brian, the 727 pressurization system is actually pretty simple because it's a manual system, roughly equivalent to the manual backup system on the 737 that can be used if the automatics fail.  You set your target and rate and the system either increases or decreases the pressure at the rate you select until the target is reached.  I think Lou has a post explaining it in detail better than I can somewhere in the detailed bug thread here:

 

http://captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1287210019/0

Thanks Dutch,

Based on what you said, I'll pay more attention and see if I can get this dialed in. Do you set your target and rate before you take off or do you increase the target as you ascend to match your altitude as you're ascending.  It's hard to jump to the FE table when trying to fly the plane. Thanks again for your clarification.

Here's what I do.  In the preflight checklist, I set the target pressure to the field elevation.  When the doors are all closed and the packs are on, the system will pressurize at a differential of near zero.  Then once in the climb I set the target cabin pressure to match what I want at top of climb, and the rate fairly low, maybe 300FPM.  The idea is that you want an internal pressure that is as low as possible without exceeding the red line on the differential.  That's about 8,000 feet cabin pressure at about 34,000 feet altitude.  When you start your descent, set the target down to near the landing field elevation.  That will do it.  That's not exactly what an FE would do, but you are a one-man show here and don't really have the time to manipulate the system like a dedicated FE would.

Besides, it only really matters if you are using FSCaptain and thus have passengers that care about pressure and rate of change.  But it's nice to be fairly authentic in any case.

Coming back to main subject...

 

So far from Boeing we have 737,777,747.

As Tabs said, 727 is too old and not worth of spending time for modeling, so i assume same is for 707.

767 as also stated, will not be done by PMDG because already Level-D made it ( a bit strange for me, as Level-D is dead as company and i doubt that anybody still buy 767 for FSX from them ).

If PMDG want stick to Boeing birds then obvious choice is 757 - unless QW version is not taken into consideration by PMDG ...

At some point we are gonna run out of "new planes." Perhaps looking into the 727 is a good option as it was the most popular Boeing aircraft next to the 737. It may be old but I am sure the community is ready for a break from all the glass cockpit aircraft out there and revisit the old school era. 

 

While the 727 is only operating passenger services for just a handful of airlines, they are still seen quite a lot today in various roles ( cargo, private, charter etc.) Here in the Caribbean we see 727's everyday and that's no exaggeration. 

 

Let's face it, after there is a new 757, 767, 747 and perhaps a 787 there isn't much to consider from the Boeing line....

 

If anyone were to create a 727, it should have various options for navigation. Many 727's back in the day used VOR navigation and others uses INS. Today they use GPS and some have Flight Management Computers. Another interesting mod to the 727 is that in some models, the fire handles were moved to the overhead panel and are no longer on the glareshield.

 

There are other mods as well, take for example the added winglets, deletion of the eyebrow windows and the Super27 model that has 2 MD-80 engines.

 

With these options and the availability of literally 100's of liveries, I can't see why a product like this won't be a hit.

OK, while I would really like a PMDG 727, I believe their best course of action is to start working now on a 787 model!

 

In a few years from now, the 787 is one plane we are going to ALL want a high level model of as the actual plane becomes more prevalent in the skies above. The 787 will contain the most advanced Boeing technology! Hopefully it will reach its full potential as its bugs are worked out and it's reputation increases.

 

B.

This is an interesting topic. I did not know about MD-11 until I started simming and was advised to look at the PMDG product which I love. That being said, if they did a 727, I'd be one of the first to buy it.

. As Tabs said, 727 is too old 

 

The DC-6 is older and is expected soon.  I'd love a PMDG B727.

The DC-6 is older and is expected soon.  I'd love a PMDG B727.

 

"soon"

 

HA HA!

 

Lets see. They still have the first service pack for the 777X to be released. They also have the -200 and -300ER expansions.

 

And who can forget their release "soon" of the official servicepack for the NGX which will add the -900ER model and possibly the BBJ's. Funny though because we were promised the BBJ's since the original PMDG NGX release!

 

Somewhere in between those releases, or after, will be the DC-6. Who knows when?

 

And then in a year or 2 when all the above "might" be released, we will get the 747v2!

 

Don't get me wrong, I love PMDG. But they take their time on everything, and promise a lot of releases that never pan out anywhere near a realistic timeframe.

I'm just throwing this out there, but has PMDG ever thought about using their incredible talents for the development of GA, or business class jets. I know they have dabbled with the DC-6 which I will buy if it is ever released. I would love for them to break in to that market.

I'm just throwing this out there, but has PMDG ever thought about using their incredible talents for the development of GA, or business class jets. I know they have dabbled with the DC-6 which I will buy if it is ever released. I would love for them to break in to that market.

 

There already is a company, it's called Eaglesoftdg.