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DX10 Users Poll

DX10 User Poll  

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  1. 1. Do You Use the DX10 Preview Mode in FSX?

    • Yes, exclusively
      355
    • No
      382
    • I switch between DX10 and Standard Mode
      122


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I use DX10 mode most of the time.  Only when I am using an aircraft that will not show correctly in DX10 do I switch to non-DX10 mode

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Funny to find this poll at this specific time since I just the other day for the first time tried out DX10 out of interest after the recent updates/fixes with fixed shaders etc.

 

My experience was quite good I should say...I was very happy with the thought of having FSX make use of my hardware in a better way compared to using DX9 and of course especially (or maybe exclusively?) my GTX 680 but unfortunately I still had too many issues with various objects not showing correctly so I was forced to go back to DX9. Objects I had problems with were

 

- IVAO MTL aircraft showing in white

- Aerosoft AES jetways and marshallers showing in white

- Addon airport sceneries showing airport/terminal buildings in pink

 

I'm really looking forward to a more complete fix/update and when available and the issues listed above are fixed I'll switch to DX10 on the spot until something even better comes out. Heard some interesting rumours about DX11 in Prepar3D...

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Migrated DX10 few moths ago, and I can't be happier with the perfomance. No single crash, OOM or stutter, smooth as a butter. Also 25 fps in DX10 is like 35fps in DX9.

When Steve finish that payware tool for fixing sceneries for DX10, all potential problems should go away.

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I never use DX10.  FSX has enough issues without adding a partly implemented 'feature' to the mix...

 

DJ

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Switched six months ago and never looked back. I just followed the instructions and it all work's perfectly. The new software should be out soon which will make switching and tweaking foolproof. I tried switching back to DX9 just for a comparison...it was horrific!

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I have the hardware support to try this but haven't yet.

 

I am awaiting the new payware tool to do the conversion to try it.

 

Regards

 

Graham

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Not the miniscule number some have touted, is it?  Just under 48% either use DX10 exclusively or use it in conjunction with DX9.  These numbers are higher than I thought.  Surprising ... now if the 3rd party developers would take note.  These numbers will only grow, and when Steve Parsons finishes his all encompassing DX10 fix, the DX9 party will be over.

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Not the miniscule number some have touted, is it?

a total of 96 users is pretty miniscule - especially as self-selecting polls like these have little real value.

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a total of 96 users is pretty miniscule - especially as self-selecting polls like these have little real value.

 

 

Statistically, its of great significance,

 

With all the addons I have DX9 give me OOM in about 5-19 minutes. 

 

The only open I issue I really have is, Even after refresh of the immediate local area, it drops the texture (I get black squares) when I turn here and there, and it reloads them after a while. Not sure if I get a better Video card with more memory that issue would go away. I have GTX 670FTW and  I have 3 X 24" + 1 19" monitor. Its a lot of stuff to throw out there.

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Statistically, its of great significance,

200+ total replies from a membership of about 100,000 isn't of any significance statistically.

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No, it's unfinished and causes all sorts of issues everywhere.

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If Steve's DX10 fixer works as advertised, I will convert full time to DX10. Until that, going back and fourth is a click of a button so no biggie.

 

As for switching 9 to 10 and back? I have to have AA enabled in FSX for DX10 mode to use my drivers Super sample AA to work. I leave everything else the same.

 

It...... Just...... Works.

 

C.

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200+ total replies from a membership of about 100,000 isn't of any significance statistically.

 

 

No, it's unfinished and causes all sorts of issues everywhere.

 

Well, maybe it's not statistically significant yet, but we already have almost 50% pollers saying that they use DX10. Among them, one third say they ONLY uses DX10.

 

I am one of them. I have been using DX9 for years, now after comparing both I will never get back to DX9 (using DX10 since a few months). Smooth, more FPS, better lighting system and colors, no memory problem, no crash, etc... I can live with the few remaining problems (missing textures for some add-ons) until Steve payware fix that also...

 

DX9 users, if you feel that you have a better option with your settings, it's your right and be happy with it. But a growing number of FSX users thinks otherwise.

 

Chris

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So far I haven't, when I tried it didn't seem to give me too much advantage. 

 

However when the DX10 fix program comes out I will probably try again... In any case I will definitely make sure my future sceneries are fully DX10 compatible. 

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I use it exclusively as everything I own or have installed now was made for FSX.  I remember when DX10 Preview first arrived in SP2/Acceleration and many individuals started to use it and found it provided greater immersion in FSX with the shadows in the cockpit and the enhanced water that changed with the weather.  The fps went up higher too but then the excitement was short-lived as everyone started seeing some anomalies, like no taxi arrows or flickering runways and taxiways at many airports.  Some on the Microsoft Aces Team blamed Nvidia for the anomalies and were hoping Nvidia would come up with a fix.  They didn't and now we know, through Steve's DX10 Fix, that the fix was pretty simple with some modification with the DX10 shader files (the fix does not touch DX9 files).  So, most of the anomalies have been fixed, it's better technology than DX9 (duh!), and it provides better fps.  Developers are also coming around and making their products compatible with DX10 as it makes their product(s) work much better in FSX (the FSDT products comes to mind).  Steve is working on more enhancements and fixes for night lighting and some airport fixes and we are all anticipating the release of this product.  One important element of DX10 is the fact that you can go back to DX9 whenever you want without worrying about your DX9 products no longer working or having to change your fsx.cfg and display driver settings.  The same settings work for both DX9 and DX10!  Of course you can make some minor changes if you like if you think it will make things better but you really do not have to modify anything.  Just install the fix, enable DX10 Preview, and GoFly.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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Have been using DX10 for more than a year as I find my fps are higher and with less stutters. I also find the overall look to be much nicer than FS9.

 

I put up with or avoid the sceneries with problems. Didn't know about the likely release of a tool to fix the scenery problems. if it is successful I shall be near the front of the que to try it.

 

Baz

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not having to see big black squares appearing for a fraction of a second instead of VASI's is alone a good enough reason for me to avoid DX9 like the plague.

Won't even mention better frame rates with higher levels of autogen and a superior depth in colors, absolutely outstanding when coupled with a good SweetFX preset.

Addon Converter X does the rest, and once Steve will have (hopefully) sorted out aircraft lights (my only real issue at the moment), DX10 FSX will be a no-brainer.

 

dig it, folks :wink:

 

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u198/Lurk1968/fsxexe_2013-05-28-23-43-08-175_zpsc8c11c8b.jpg~original

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I use it exclusively as everything I own or have installed now was made for FSX.  I remember when DX10 Preview first arrived in SP2/Acceleration and many individuals started to use it and found it provided greater immersion in FSX with the shadows in the cockpit and the enhanced water that changed with the weather.  The fps went up higher too but then the excitement was short-lived as everyone started seeing some anomalies, like no taxi arrows or flickering runways and taxiways at many airports.  Some on the Microsoft Aces Team blamed Nvidia for the anomalies and were hoping Nvidia would come up with a fix.  They didn't and now we know, through Steve's DX10 Fix, that the fix was pretty simple with some modification with the DX10 shader files (the fix does not touch DX9 files).  So, most of the anomalies have been fixed, it's better technology than DX9 (duh!), and it provides better fps.  Developers are also coming around and making their products compatible with DX10 as it makes their product(s) work much better in FSX (the FSDT products comes to mind).  Steve is working on more enhancements and fixes for night lighting and some airport fixes and we are all anticipating the release of this product.  One important element of DX10 is the fact that you can go back to DX9 whenever you want without worrying about your DX9 products no longer working or having to change your fsx.cfg and display driver settings.  The same settings work for both DX9 and DX10!  Of course you can make some minor changes if you like if you think it will make things better but you really do not have to modify anything.  Just install the fix, enable DX10 Preview, and GoFly.

 

Best regards,

Jim

I was just about to say the EXACT same thing Jim, but you beat me to it.  :)  Great post.

 

a total of 96 users is pretty miniscule - especially as self-selecting polls like these have little real value.

This is similar to exit polling, just taking a snapshot of a semi-random sampling.  I agree there are mitigating factors that could skew the results off perfection, but that is true of all polls.

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Not for me, like others don't want to play with the 'possible' features, and I need a stable platform.

 

 

When someone releases a 100% fixed and stable 'platform' i will naturally migrate to DX10 

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For my flying style (GA) and add-ons, DX10 preview suits me perfectly with its enhance water with wind aware whitecaps, cockpit shadows and bloom.  Yet when it comes to night flying (which I do very rarely) I switch back to DX9, which takes 3 minutes to do; BTW I voted yes.

 

If you consider those who voted "switch" as DX10 users, so far this poll is rather evenly split.

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I use DX9 exclusively.  The AA isn't as good in DX10 (even though some people have published ideas that have made it much better).  And there is a lot of excellent payware scenery that is not DX10 compatible (Flytampa etc..).

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a total of 96 users is pretty miniscule - especially as self-selecting polls like these have little real value.

 

Gerry, how else are we going to figure out who uses DX10 or not? Send 'em an app and have it call home when the sim is started? How else are you to make that determination? Please tell us how you would do it? As for "value", it's in the eyes of the beholder, I suspect.

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Tom, to be honest I don't think you can do any better, but that doesn't mean the results are significant.

 

A problem with self-selecting polls like this is that it's well known that they tend to polarise (no pun intended).. In this case, enthusiasts both for and against DX10 are far more likely to respond than typical users who aren't too fussed either way. 

 

The consequence is that the for and against votes could come from a fairly small,  groups that are not representative of the majority..

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The consequence is that the for and against votes could come from a fairly small,  groups that are not representative of the majority..

 

That is a possibility but IMO, that's a low probability.

 

There are two groups of FSX Simmers. 1) Who actively participate in AVSIM and then those twho don't. 

 

There is no information as to whether the non AVSIM participats are heavily skewed to DX9 or to DX10. We could make a judgment call here and say that the non AVSIM particpats are not heavy simmers and may not be aware of DX10. and may indeed be DX9 users and that AVSIM participats may be skewed towards DX10.

 

However from a weighted average perspective in terms of simming hrs are concered, the above discrepancy becomes moot. For Simmers who are not aware of AVSIM do not sim extensively ...so their numbers may not be much or we just don't care for them.. Ha Ha!

 

So this Poll IMO, is a pretty significant IMO.

 

:P

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