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Make sure EFB is actually loading the plan to the FSX GPS first, it may actually be EFB that's not working. Does default ATC know what flight you have loaded from EFB, or the default knee board nav log?

Cheers, Andy.

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I do all my flying in the NGX so I don't use the FSX GPS nor do I use FSX ATC since I do all my flying online on VATSIM. Maybe that is the problem that I need to be in an a/c using the default FSX GPS for EFB to send the FP correctly to FSX...

 

This really isn't a big deal for me since it's so easy to load the FP manually but maybe I do some testing when I find the time for it.

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I do all my flying in the NGX so I don't use the FSX GPS nor do I use FSX ATC since I do all my flying online on VATSIM. Maybe that is the problem that I need to be in an a/c using the default FSX GPS for EFB to send the FP correctly to FSX... This really isn't a big deal for me since it's so easy to load the FP manually but maybe I do some testing when I find the time for it.

That shouldn't matter, this test is just to confirm that the plan is getting imported to FSX by EFB, just open the kneeboard and confirm the nav log matches your EFB plan.

Cheers, Andy.

Just a note on the flight watch /ATIS briefing. Is it not supposed to include expected runways in use?  When winds are higher than 5kts than its a pretty good guess which ones are in use, but below 5, its winds calm and there is no way of telling what the airport is using. My last landing was into a oncoming takeoff.

 

It's not ATC nor traffic flow and it also doesn't know what the weather will be at the time of your arrival (it could only guess based on the forecasts but what's the point?).  The only way to do it in the real world is to call up Flight Watch (or ACARS) and talk to a real person and get reports as to the actual ops going on at the requested airport at that time.  Keep in mind that could also change and Approach & Tower could give you something different from what Flight Watch or ATIS reported.

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I am pretty sure that ASN reads the FP from FSX so whatever source you use has to load it into FSX - then ASN will read it. You don't have to 'use' the FSX GPS but the plan needs to be loaded.

 

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I do think a great feature for ASN would be to give an expected runway in use. It is possible to do so in FSX because it uses a very specific algorithm based on wind for determining which runway will use for ATC/AI. Ideal Flight for example gives you expected runway in use based on weather forecast, and it's really helpful. I think it would be a fantastic addition to the Briefing page in ASN.

Just did another test but I still can't get the flight plan to load automatically in ASN so must still be missing something. I did check the create Garmin FP option in EFB and I also made sure the option to automatically load FPs was checked in ASN but when I load and activate a FP in EFB with both FSX and ASN running nothing happens in ASN...shouldn't that load the same FP also in ASN automatically or maybe I misunderstood in some way how this feature is supposed to work?

 

And just to have it confirmed, do I also need to load a FP using the built-in FSX Flight Planner? If 'Yes' that might be the culprit because I never use the built-in flight planner in FSX.

 

Not a big deal though, very quick and easy to load the correct FP manually into ASN but just thought it would have been a little bit cool if ASN would have 'fetched' the loaded and activated FP from EFB by itself :)

OK this is confirmed as not working on my network install test now too, so its not just you. My locally running ASN install works perfectly in this case. Reported.

Cheers, Andy.

I do think a great feature for ASN would be to give an expected runway in use. It is possible to do so in FSX because it uses a very specific algorithm based on wind for determining which runway will use for ATC/AI. Ideal Flight for example gives you expected runway in use based on weather forecast, and it's really helpful. I think it would be a fantastic addition to the Briefing page in ASN.

 

Weather stations are not tied to airports.  Weather stations are simply stuck at a certain location, given a coded identifier, turned on and told to report weather.  They don't even adjust for sea level reporting - they simply report cloud bases based on how far above the station they are (AGL).  They aren't complicated machines, and they certainly have no idea what runways might be in use.  What runway is in use can't simply be based off wind direction - you must take into account runway length, width, contamination, navigational approaches, inoperative equipment (both on the airport and in the aircraft), etc.  The point is that for a weather program to guess a runway simply based off wind would be very inaccurate and extremely unrealistic.  You have to take all the information you have available to you and decide for yourself what runway you should use, even regardless of what ATC says or tries to get you to do.  You, as the PIC, are the final say.

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I love the GUI. The map is attractive, configurable, and easy to use. Wind barbs are done perfectly. Mouse-over gives decoded wx for each waypoint. The briefing let's you know if there are more favorable winds at a FL different from what you have planned. I know we have seen maps and briefings before, but I don't think I have ever seen these features implemented as well as here.

 

 

 

I do think a great feature for ASN would be to give an expected runway in use. It is possible to do so in FSX because it uses a very specific algorithm based on wind for determining which runway will use for ATC/AI. Ideal Flight for example gives you expected runway in use based on weather forecast, and it's really helpful. I think it would be a fantastic addition to the Briefing page in ASN.

 

I agree.  As long as FSX ATC is able to work with ASN weather and the accurate runways in use can be reported with FSX ATIS, I don't believe it's a big deal for a 3rd party program such as Active Sky to be able to read that information off and use it for it's own ATIS.  I seem to recall that Dave March's FDC would read that info from FSX and announce the likely assigned runway.  So, yes, it would be cool if they could simply read that stream and incorporate it into their own, not only what runways are active, but also what runway FSX is likely going to assign on initial request for landing or taxi

 

On the other hand, maybe there isn't much remaining reason to use Active Sky ATIS any more at all, since FSX ATIS now has both accurate weather and accurate runways in use anyway, and you can always request a runway so long as it is listed among the actives...

It's not ATC nor traffic flow and it also doesn't know what the weather will be at the time of your arrival (it could only guess based on the forecasts but what's the point?).  The only way to do it in the real world is to call up Flight Watch (or ACARS) and talk to a real person and get reports as to the actual ops going on at the requested airport at that time.  Keep in mind that could also change and Approach & Tower could give you something different from what Flight Watch or ATIS reported.

I understand that but I only mentioned because FSX internal ATIS will report the runways in use. 

 

Anyhow since we cannot call up some real person  or ACARS, the problem of a "winds calm condition" remains up to 5kts. I dont particularly favor a total wind lock mode because then its getting away from the purpose of real weather. Perhaps a wind lock that keeps it at the last known heading and a speed of 1-3 kts if ATIS is winds calm? AI use a runway even if its 1kt will change irregardless of what the airports calm conditions main runways are I believe

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Weather stations are not tied to airports.  Weather stations are simply stuck at a certain location, given a coded identifier, turned on and told to report weather.  They don't even adjust for sea level reporting - they simply report cloud bases based on how far above the station they are (AGL).  They aren't complicated machines, and they certainly have no idea what runways might be in use.  What runway is in use can't simply be based off wind direction - you must take into account runway length, width, contamination, navigational approaches, inoperative equipment (both on the airport and in the aircraft), etc.  The point is that for a weather program to guess a runway simply based off wind would be very inaccurate and extremely unrealistic.  You have to take all the information you have available to you and decide for yourself what runway you should use, even regardless of what ATC says or tries to get you to do.  You, as the PIC, are the final say.

 

That's all well and good but we are talking about a simulator here, not real life. In the simulator, AI uses a specific runway which in FSX is determined solely by wind. Of course in real life other factors like equipment failure comes into play, but that doesn't happen in FSX. If you want to fit into the AI traffic pattern (and not everyone uses AI, I get that) you need to be using what FSX has computed to be the runway in use. Of course you can request different runways and such anyway, this is just an idea to help expand briefing functionality.

 

I don't see why you're arguing against it, it's not like it would be subtracting something from the software.

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Had a headwind at FL360 of 183 knots last night. And ASN handled the descent for approach with all those wind changes decently and smoothly. Mind you my GS at FL320 was 248 or so, in the Airbus EX.

 

In real life, does an Airbus do its flight at FL170 to avoid that heavy headwind? It was only about 65 knots there

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