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Thanks for the informative answer, my friend. I think I'm going to try to go back to basic textures and reset my clouds in REX to see if I notice any visual difference. Even if I decide to get McPhat's UHDT VC for the Coolsky DC-9, I can bump up the setting and still keep the lower def clouds.

 

 

 

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  • Pretty sweet. Just flew a quick circuit around KATL. Heres the metar. KATL 090052Z 08008KT 1/2SM -DZ BR OVC003 07/06 A3023 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 1 1/2   Finally thick overcast 360deg with no holes. and ha

  • $50/$30 and no textures..  Gotta pass on that..  Did the same for Opus.. Weather depiction alone isn't worth that much to me.. AS2012 will stay

  • Yesterday I tried to make a comparison between ASN and Opus. I have been using Opus with full satisfaction for the last year and I was curious to compare it with ASN, after all the hypes and comments

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The PMDG 737 encounters an ASN created microburst.

 

To be honest, I feel the wind shift was far too sudden even for a severe microburst. You can see on the ND the wind takes two seconds to shift 70 knots [both in front and behind the microburst]. My recommendation to the team is to just be gentler when shifting winds even in a microburst.

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I have been a loyal Hifi Weather software user for year but last year, as many others, I have moved to Opus. A couple of days ago I wanted to give ASN a try and installed the demo version. I left Opus to manage the camera views and DHM only (disable the weather engine) and let ASN manage the weather. Unfortunately I had a CTD (the first one after almost 1.5 year of perfectly flawless flights...I almost forgot what it was... :lol: ) during climb a few minutes after taking off from EDDM, while flying into a broken cloud layer. Just a coincidence ? Maybe...who knows...didn't have the chance for a second run so I will definitely try again. ASN settings were at default. 

Just a question: is it strictly necessary to update FSUIPC to the latest version (compatibility with ASN is clearly indicated as one of the release notes in the FSUIPC 4.94) ?.

Given the short duration of the test I had little time to get exhaustive impressions but the feeling is that Damien and his team made really a good job.

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That was the most extreme MB I have seen with ASN.  Nice find :)  Was this created with the debug screen, or actually generated automatically?  With debug screen, things are very random in nature regarding the experienced shear and downdrafts.  In any case, thank you very much for your feedback.

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That was the most extreme MB I have seen with ASN.  Nice find :)  Was this created with the debug screen, or actually generated automatically?  With debug screen, things are very random in nature regarding the experienced shear and downdrafts.  In any case, thank you very much for your feedback.

 

I used the debug screen to make it.

 

My first one had a 45 knot wind shift. The one I recorded with FRAPS was 70 knots. It was a unique and scary experience, haha.

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I used the debug screen to make it.

 

My first one had a 45 knot wind shift. The one I recorded with FRAPS was 70 knots. It was a unique and scary experience, haha.

Did you change the descent rate default of 500fpm for the downdraft in the settings? Looks like you must of!

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Did you change the descent rate default of 500fpm for the downdraft in the settings? Looks like you must of!

 

I set it to the max. 2000 I think?

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The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.
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It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.

Am going to use this term as I've seen it use by the same person here and when talking about ASN in the P3D forums.
"honestly"
After using OPUS for a year I wonder what people expect to see, ASN is not going to change the look of fsx, OPUS did at first with there engine and at first the weather did not change. But as they added more into it for high level flying it came at the cost of big wind shifts. OPUS does make things look good but so does AS2012 and REX. OPUS was the best.
 
ASN IMHO is not about re-inviting the wheel it's about making the weather real, never seeing a redrawn sky with an update. Real good turbulence, the chance to have a micro-burst happen. I went from FL180 down to 3,800 ft last night with nothing to see. OPUS never gave me that and the turbulence that came with it.
http://forum.avsim.net/topic/428864-asn-flight-kiad-to-kjfk/
Never have I seen a wind shift to knock the 777 about in ASN, I got that every flight with OPUS and 9 times out of 10 at least 1 massive wind shift when around 50 miles out of the airport. 
 
So "honestly" I don't know what people expect to see. I think the "problem" with ASN is you only see what you hope to see, a seamless flight with "real" weather and a "feeling" of going though real clouds.
So "honestly" if you don't get it. Fine. Its not about a slap of new eye candy its about making weather real. The only real eye candy you see is not having your sky redrawn, so in a way you don't see anything. But what you do get for the first time is real and that's why for the first time we have a real radar.

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The one and only thing that needs fixing is what I saw in OPUS at first and that is repeated cloud draw of the same kind so you see a repeat Patten you do need to fix that HiFi.

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I take it you guys dont suffer from harsh wind shifts with OPUS then?  I do, so ASN is out in front in my book.

 

Nope.    Not tried the 3.38 beta on the home page? .... No harsh cloud shifts any more.    I was slow to try the Opus Beta myself but I flew 3 flights last night with no aircraft kicking whatsoever.  :smile:

 

But hey, ASN is a fantastic weather engine, there is no doubt about that.  It's top quality.  It is just the case that Opus and ASN are now very close to eachother.  I'm bought into one and I like the regularity of updates, betas and progress from the camp that I am bought into, so I won't change camps as it would just feel superfluous.

 

But I reckon anyone flying with ASN or Opus is in for some great flying  :cool:

will ASN clouds look much better with REX or AS2012 textures, I don't want to kill the performance any more than it already is and I stay away from large textures sizes also so is it just better to leave FSX default or can it look much better with a REX tectures installed, thanks

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Very nice video! Microbursts are of varying intensity and indeed you encountered a very intense one. Couple of notes:

 

- The downdraft component of the microburst actually overrides the user selected max downdraft option and depends on the intensity of the microburst itself.

- If you had XGauge installed and/or powered on (even without showing), our pws (predictive windshear alert system) would warn you way before the actual encounter.

- Attempting to go around in this case and based on the "radar" indication you might encounter varying levels of sudden cross wind component too (depending on the angle of encounter), because of the way the winds radiate from the center of it towards all directions.

 

This was an impressive video! Thanks.

 

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I have been a loyal Hifi Weather software user for year but last year...... SNIP

 

Just a question: is it strictly necessary to update FSUIPC to the latest version (compatibility with ASN is clearly indicated as one of the release notes in the FSUIPC 4.94) ?.

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It's not strictly necessary, no, but it is advisable to always keep FSUIPC up-to-date, its free and non destructive, so why not :good:

Cheers, Andy.

will ASN clouds look much better with REX or AS2012 textures, I don't want to kill the performance any more than it already is and I stay away from large textures sizes also so is it just better to leave FSX default or can it look much better with a REX tectures installed, thanks

 

Textures are a matter of personal taste, but managing texture size can help with smoothness and frame rates. Personally, I don't care for the default FSX cloud textures so use other texture sets, even changing them up a bit. ASN doesn't care which ones you use, but if they are high definition textures, and you have ASN's enhanced overcast option enabled, then you might have to manage your other FSX settings to maintain a smooth and stutter-free sim.

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Sometime cloud textures can look better than others, larger billowy clouds will help with better depiction of overcast layers. If you have horizontally compressed clouds these can sometimes lead to you seening gaps in overcast layers. In summary short fat clouds are better than tall thin or multi cluster clouds for overcast depiction at least.

Cheers, Andy.

The PMDG 737 encounters an ASN created microburst.

 

 

I haven't had the time to test the microburst stuff, yet: the "WINDSHEAR" aural warning comes with ASN? If yes, should I have XGauge installed or can I hear it without (and with ASN installed on a second computer)?

This video is a clear demonstration that there is no windshear feature on the 737 NGX  :(

Thanks.

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