I do see the unsolicited sarcasm against P3D in your posts though.

 

Again another prickly response, thus again underlining my point.

 

There was nothing sarcastic in my post you quoted.

 

What I do see in this thread is some people dismissing out of hand the possibility of a new sim that might be a viable alternative to P3D. That's rather short sighted given we don't know who the buyer is, what they have bought, what their resources are, nor indeed what their vision for the sim is.

 

I also see the now depressingly common disparaging of FSX accompanied with promotion by the same of P3D2. I understand that it's really not cool at the moment to have a negative opinion of P3D and it will get you browbeaten by those who have been illuminated by the divine light of P3D. Any criticism of P3D is met with what can only amount to cries of "Blasphemy!" and a virtual stoning. 

 

As good a software platform P3D may eventually become, for several reasons I believe P3D can potentially be damaging to the hobby in the long run. This is why I am cautiously optimistic about this news and hope it leads to another viable platform for flight simmers.

An announcement could come from Microsoft at E3 - but probably not at an Xbox press conference.  Different business unit.  I'd expect a press release at some point, maybe not a "live" show.

Honestly, I would not hold my breath waiting for an announcement from Microsoft that they've sold the Flight Simulator Franchise...

 

Surely it would make more sense for the new owners to make any announcement...

 

The entire MS presentation today is exclusively about X-Box titles.

This is why I am cautiously optimistic about this news and hope it leads to another viable platform for flight simmers.

 

 

That is always a good thing - and why I said in my original post, if it is something truly substantial, we all win.

Watching the MS aka Xbox conference... If anything would be mentioned regarding the peaceful flight simulator we love, it could be that some company bought it to become an Xbox title... No just my intuition... I am just watching and waiting for possible news... Probably it will simply be a press release... Who knows...

"Again another prickly response, thus again underlining my point.

 

There was nothing sarcastic in my post you quoted.

 

What I do see in this thread is some people dismissing out of hand the possibility of a new sim that might be a viable alternative to P3D. That's rather short sighted given we don't know who the buyer is, what they have bought, what their resources are, nor indeed what their vision for the sim is.

 

I also see the now depressingly common disparaging of FSX accompanied with promotion by the same of P3D2. I understand that it's really not cool at the moment to have a negative opinion of P3D and it will get you browbeaten by those who have been illuminated by the divine light of P3D. Any criticism of P3D is met with what can only amount to cries of "Blasphemy!" and a virtual stoning. 

 

As good a software platform P3D may eventually become, for several reasons I believe P3D can potentially be damaging to the hobby in the long run. This is why I am cautiously optimistic about this news and hope it leads to another viable platform for flight simmers."

 

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This is the last thing I am saying on the matter.  'Read the entire thread' 

Flex, thanks for bringing the info you have to this discussion. Some on here are just so rude and you have handled them with more dignity then I would have lol.

 

Once again thanks

David

Honestly, I would not hold my breath waiting for an announcement from Microsoft that they've sold the Flight Simulator Franchise...

 

Surely it would make more sense for the new owners to make any announcement...

 

The entire MS presentation today is exclusively about X-Box titles.

 

Agree.

 

And if the unexpected player is from outside the computer entertainment universe, then the announcement might come during E3 but not neccesarily at E3 (since why would a non-entertainment player have a presence there).  For this reason, too, I'm thinking press release, not live staging.  

 

 

What I do see in this thread is some people dismissing out of hand the possibility of a new sim that might be a viable alternative to P3D. That's rather short sighted given we don't know who the buyer is, what they have bought, what their resources are, nor indeed what their vision for the sim is.

 

I also see the now depressingly common disparaging of FSX accompanied with promotion by the same of P3D2. I understand that it's really not cool at the moment to have a negative opinion of P3D and it will get you browbeaten by those who have been illuminated by the divine light of P3D. Any criticism of P3D is met with what can only amount to cries of "Blasphemy!" and a virtual stoning. 

 

As good a software platform P3D may eventually become, for several reasons I believe P3D can potentially be damaging to the hobby in the long run. This is why I am cautiously optimistic about this news and hope it leads to another viable platform for flight simmers.

 

 

Well, speaking personally... I'm using P3D at the moment because on my system, for my style of flight, it give me much better performance than FSX.  I also like the fact that it's in active development, and that developers are in contact with the community.  However, if a better platform came along I'd be happy to switch to it.  And I wouldn't mind being done with all the close reading of licensing terms that goes along with P3D.  And I realize that for many, maybe most users, FSX is a perfectly satisfactory solution.  So no tribalism or culture wars from my perspective.  Bring me a good flightsim and I'm there.  

Back in April I saw a graphic on line (no idea if it was legit) showing FSX 2014 as a n X-Box game. So this may be mentioned at the X-Box shoot um up presser.

The T-Shirt the lead from MS is wearing says 'Limbo', how ironic concerning the state of the company and these titles presented.

 

Talk about a bunch of mindless shooting and killing, no wonder we have the problems in society we're having now... 

 

 

Back in April I saw a graphic on line (no idea if it was legit)

 

What date in April :smile:

Just watching the E3 press conference and I agree it's all about XBox 1 titles. I don't expect there to be any announcement of what (if anything) has happened to the MSFS franchise.

 

 

 

That is always a good thing - and why I said in my original post, if it is something truly substantial, we all win.

 

Absolutely agreed.

 

 

 

Bring me a good flightsim and I'm there.  

 

Alan, it's always a pleasure to read your posts. I think we're all big and ugly enough to make up our own minds about what sim we wish to use. I'm very wary of going any further on these forums, but I believe when it comes to P3D "that which must not be mentioned" has the potential to lead to a raft of very undesirable consequences that may be very damaging to the hobby and I think some of them are starting to bear out right now.

 

I don't think anybody would disagree with me that the current situation we find ourselves in - FSX effectively being a dead end, XP10's very insular and slow development, and P3D's "that which must not be mentioned" - is far from ideal. The possibility of a new sim that just maybe might address all the current problems we have should be welcome news.

 

I'll hope for the best.

Back in April I saw a graphic on line (no idea if it was legit) showing FSX 2014 as a n X-Box game. So this may be mentioned at the X-Box shoot um up presser.

 

Considering that it was posted on April 1, I'm going to guess that it was not legit...

 

 

Talk about a bunch of mindless shooting and killing, no wonder we have the problems in society we're having now... 

 

You're kidding, right?

Again another prickly response, thus again underlining my point.

 

There was nothing sarcastic in my post you quoted.

 

What I do see in this thread is some people dismissing out of hand the possibility of a new sim that might be a viable alternative to P3D. That's rather short sighted given we don't know who the buyer is, what they have bought, what their resources are, nor indeed what their vision for the sim is.

 

I also see the now depressingly common disparaging of FSX accompanied with promotion by the same of P3D2. I understand that it's really not cool at the moment to have a negative opinion of P3D and it will get you browbeaten by those who have been illuminated by the divine light of P3D. Any criticism of P3D is met with what can only amount to cries of "Blasphemy!" and a virtual stoning. 

 

As good a software platform P3D may eventually become, for several reasons I believe P3D can potentially be damaging to the hobby in the long run. This is why I am cautiously optimistic about this news and hope it leads to another viable platform for flight simmers.

 

 

If Flight is any example FSX could rapidly go by way of vapor ware if MS truly turned the franchise over to someone else.  As hard as it is and the very mention of FSX being toast is negative in some of your eyes the writing is on the wall.  Why would MS host an authentication server to a product they no longer own?  Why would a game with a 20+ years history get no mention as to it's future at E3 (if this happens to be the case)?  I can't get all the content for Flight that's currently installed on my PC.  What will you guys do if you can no longer install FSX and authenticate it?  I always hated this way of monitoring and selling products because companies could do anything and your years of effort and work are suddenly toast.  FS9 was the last version that no matter what MS does will still work.  I made this point a month ago and it was like spitting in peoples face the response I got, "Microsoft would never do that" was the going wisdom.  Here we are with them selling the whole franchise.  It's amazing that even now many of you are in denial about the need to switch.  We'll see how this all plays out but if MS shuts down FSX activation because they no longer own it I'd love to see the rational from many FSX users then.  We have an alternative and that's P3D and X-Plane.  Why hold on so hard, MS has check out years ago but this blind loyalty is still there.  We as a community have to move on no matter how painful it is...

If Flight is any example FSX could rapidly go by way of vapor ware if MS truly turned the franchise over to someone else.  As hard as it is and the very mention of FSX being toast is negative in some of your eyes the writing is on the wall.  Why would MS host an authentication server to a product they no longer own?  Why would a game with a 20+ years history get no mention as to it's future at E3 (if this happens to be the case)?  I can't get all the content for Flight that's currently installed on my PC.  What will you guys do if you can no longer install FSX and authenticate it?  I always hated this way of monitoring and selling products because companies could do anything and your years of effort and work are suddenly toast.  FS9 was the last version that no matter what MS does will still work.  I made this point a month ago and it was like spitting in peoples face the response I got, "Microsoft would never do that" was the going wisdom.  Here we are with them selling the whole franchise.  It's amazing that even now many of you are in denial about the need to switch.  We'll see how this all plays out but if MS shuts down FSX activation because they no longer own it I'd love to see the rational from many FSX users then.  We have an alternative and that's P3D and X-Plane.  Why hold on so hard, MS has check out years ago but this blind loyalty is still there.  We as a community have to move on no matter how painful it is...

Now go back and insert LM for every reference to MS or FSX in your post. Now what do you have?

Now go back and insert LM for every reference to MS or FSX in your post. Now what do you have?

 

Very true...  Today that's the only real game in town for the legacy franchise which I'm thankful at this point is an option.