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Throwing in the towel....

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....wow...wow....

 

I had 2.3 running, then loaded Global 1.20, Vector 1.15, Pilot2010FSX...

 

 

Ran it again...and CTD.

 

I at least know...that everything I want, works in 2.2.   In the morning, I'll run my system restore..and get everything back as it was....

 

Glad for you limited ones,  all that have got this to work....and with some of your add-ons.

 

I couldn't.

 

Going to bed....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

I've spent 5 hours at this...and have had enough....

 

The dang patch should have been released to recognize the hot patch....and just friggin upgraded the sim.

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 Works on my end. I had the hotfix in as well, I just removed the 4 folders that they recommended to do from previous versions. Once it rebuilt everything I just re-added the FTXG and Vector entries to the scenery.cfg. As far as I know it's working great. Still need more time to test to find out for sure though.

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What ?

 

Mike less than enthusiastic ... never would have believed it.

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Let him get his beauty rest, he'll be back at it like horns on unicorns.

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What ?

 

Mike less than enthusiastic ... never would have believed it.

Mitch not Mike :)

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If you re-install it windows keeps some of the original files and doesn't give you a fresh version. After my install I still had FSUIPC being called up in my dll in my main cfg folder. I took it out and it stopped crashing.

 

Give it a chance, its a pretty big update with a lot of great things. Im all smooth now waiting for devs to catch up!

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Don't give up, the performance gains are worth any pains from upgrading!

 

Now cowboy up and get to it!

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I feel for Sesquatoo!

 

I spent a whole weekend trying to get V2.2 installed mainly because Lockheed Martin presumed that we all have C drives with tons of space for their extracted .cab files. Wrong. (Mine has 10GB free - plenty for the OS and nothing else on it).

 

I've just found out that the new version is exactly the same which will mean another wasted weekend manually extracting their cab files one by one. If I can be bothered which I can't right now. Think I'll stick to FSX and DX10 until the dust settles a bit but will keep a close eye on this forum as I did enjoy the extra immersion that P3D gave me.

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I had 2.3 running, then loaded Global 1.20, Vector 1.15, Pilot2010FSX...

 

I've not had any issue with these products in 2.3 ... you will however have to disable Orbx entries in your DLL.XML.

 

I've said this in my other thread and I'll say it again here ... whatever is in your DLL.XML or EXE.XML comes from a 3rd party vendor (they are not from LM), if there are entries in those two files from 3rd party that does version checking and/or requires linking they (3rd party) will need to update their products.  It's very much dependent on the 3rd party vendor on when/if they need to provide an update, not ALL entries in two files do require updates.

 

This is not an LM issue, you need to go to your 3rd party vendor to get updates.  LM does NOT have control on how 3rd party devs implement their DLLs/EXEs.

 

Moving forward, it's advisable that people get out of the mindset they were used to with FSX ... P3D V2.x is a changing platform and 3rd party will need to change with it or not develop for it.  If you have a huge 3rd party install base (and I do also) then it would be advisable that you NOT jump right in to 2.3 until you can confirm that your 3rd party products are "ready" for P3D V2.3.  This process is most likely going to repeat for v2.4 also and onwards after that.

 

But again, not all products require updates, it really depends on the 3rd party content provider and how they implement their products ... this isn't in LM's control.  It's the same when people moved from FS9 to FSX , SP1, SP2 ... only now the updates from LM are more frequent (every 3-4 months).

 

I've posted information here: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/449058-how-to-update-p3dv22-to-p3dv23/

 

Cheers, Rob.

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This is not an LM issue, you need to go to your 3rd party vendor to get updates.  LM does NOT have control on how 3rd party devs implement their DLLs/EXEs.

 

Moving forward, it's advisable that people get out of the mindset they were used to with FSX ... P3D V2.x is a changing platform and 3rd party will need to change with it or not develop for it.  If you have a huge 3rd party install base (and I do also) then it would be advisable that you NOT jump right in to 2.3 until you can confirm that your 3rd party products are "ready" for P3D V2.3.  This process is most likely going to repeat for v2.4 also and onwards after that.

 

 

Couldn't have said it any better.

 

Basically lots of people are complaining about progress in a great update. LM has to do this to move forward. If you aren't in for the ride jump back to FSX. The main devs will catch up in no time! Have some patience. 

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I spent a whole weekend trying to get V2.2 installed mainly because Lockheed Martin presumed that we all have C drives with tons of space for their extracted .cab files. Wrong. (Mine has 10GB free - plenty for the OS and nothing else on it).

 

As I've indicated in my other threads, you will need at least 20GB free ... in fact, if you install PILOT's Mesh add-on it will silently (as in no error message) NOT install everything it should if you don't have 20GB free.  Many installers use the OS Temp location ... you can change this location so that is not pointing to your C: drive.  In fact, there is a good chance you have many products that have silently not installed correctly (any product, not just flight sim related) because you only have 10GB free.

 

If you are short on disk space on C:, I recommend these solutions:

 

Changing OS temp folder location:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-files/change-location-of-temp-files-folder-to-another/19f13330-dde1-404c-aa27-a76c0b450818

 

Move Pagefile to some other location:

http://superuser.com/questions/237813/how-can-i-move-the-page-file-to-another-physical-disk-location

 

You can also relocate your Package Cache folder -- I do NOT recommend this unless you are a highly experienced user:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/heaths/archive/2014/02/11/how-to-relocate-the-package-cache.aspx

 

Or you can continue to punish yourself and manually extract .CAB files ;)

 

Cheers Rob.

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Well said Rob ....

 

It really isn't LM's problem

 

I am downloading v2.3 full installation as we speak ... My god it's a slow and painful download speed and I have a good internet connection

 

Paul 

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Welcome to X-Plane! No offense intended, but this is what xp10 users/developers have been going through, for years. Us old timers have to get accustomed to the fact of having ongoing development for our favourite flightsim. That is what we have wanted for years, and now we have it. Enjoy the ride.

 

  just my .02c.

Jazz

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Or you can continue to punish yourself and manually extract .CAB files ;)

 

Ha! Thanks very much for those links Rob will try some of those other options if/when I buy V2.3.

 

EDIT: Just had a look at that Package Cache info. Maybe not. There are only so many hours in a day...;)

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you can change this location so that is not pointing to your C: drive.

 

  Rob, would changing the temp folder location after P3Dv2.3 is installed, affect my ability to, down the road, uninstall P3Dv2.3? (ie; As in preparation for clean install/upgrade to v2.4?) 

 

 Jazz

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Welcome to X-Plane! No offense intended, but this is what xp10 users/developers have been going through, for years. Us old timers have to get accustomed to the fact of having ongoing development for our favourite flightsim. That is what we have wanted for years, and now we have it. Enjoy the ride.

 

Which is what it's great XPlane is on Steam. No non-sense easy updating and re-installation, or validation.

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Rob, would changing the temp folder location after P3Dv2.3 is installed, affect my ability to, down the road, uninstall P3Dv2.3?

 

It should NOT ... Install/Repair functionality is in the Package Cache folders.  Unfortunately the package cache folders keep a duplicate so it can be rather large 8-10GB in size just for P3D.  But moving/relocating the package cache folders is NOT for the timid and not something I'd recommend unless you really know your OS.

 

 

 


I would like to uninstall version 2.2 and the Hot Fix and then do a complete re-install of 2.3.

 

That should still work, key is that you delete those 4 folders referenced in that link and then make sure P3D V2.2 installed to folder is gone also (it will not be deleted by uninstall if you have added any other sub folders to the P3D root).

 

Cheers, Rob.


 

 


Just had a look at that Package Cache info. Maybe not.

 

Yes, it's intimidating and intended for someone who is very experienced and knows their OS inside/out ... unfortunately the package cache folder for P3D is rather large (duplicate) 8-10GB in size.  

 

However, 10GB free on you C: drive is going to be an issues with many products (beyond just P3D install) ... you really should think about freeing up you C: drive if you want a better overall installation experience -- like I said, some installers (like PILOT's FTX Edition Mesh) will simply just not do a full install if it runs out of space but more importantly it will NOT report back to the user there was any error ... you just don't get all the correct Mesh files installed, which can be a problem.

 

My rule for C: is 20GB free at all times.

 

Cheers, Rob.

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EDIT: Just had a look at that Package Cache info. Maybe not. There are only so many hours in a day...;)

 

I was in the same boat as you, with about 7 gig free on my C: drive.  I have 16 gig of RAM.  I disabled hibernation and got about 12 gig of drive space freed up.  Then I cut the page file down from 16 gig to 800 meg (It complained if I tried to go lower) and got another almost 16 gig free.  With 16 gig of RAM I don't expect to need the page file very often.

 

As for Package Cache, I found the entry that had the P3D files in it, about 10 gig, and deleted that folder.  In the end I had almost 35 gig free on my C: drive.  You may wish to leave the folder itself, but move the files in it to another drive, restoring them if necessary.

 

Another option is to upgrade your SDD to a bigger one.  Who was the rocket scientist who thought 64 gig would be enough for a C: drive??  When I bought the computer that way, I had no idea.  But these guys designed and  built computers for a living;  they should have known better.

 

Hook

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Mitch not Mike :)

 

Oooooops!

 

Apologies Mitch.   :blush:

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Thank-You, Rob. I don't have to worry about that, then. Currently have 176Gb's free on my C drive. I tend not to install any programs to my C drive unless it is absolutely required.

 

  Regards, Jazz

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I was in the same boat as you, with about 7 gig free on my C: drive.  I have 16 gig of RAM.  I disabled hibernation and got about 12 gig of drive space freed up.  Then I cut the page file down from 16 gig to 800 meg (It complained if I tried to go lower) and got another almost 16 gig free.  With 16 gig of RAM I don't expect to need the page file very often.

 

As for Package Cache, I found the entry that had the P3D files in it, about 10 gig, and deleted that folder.  In the end I had almost 35 gig free on my C: drive.  You may wish to leave the folder itself, but move the files in it to another drive, restoring them if necessary.

 

Another option is to upgrade your SDD to a bigger one.  Who was the rocket scientist who thought 64 gig would be enough for a C: drive??  When I bought the computer that way, I had no idea.  But these guys designed and  built computers for a living;  they should have known better.

 

Hook

 

Hi Hook thanks for the info and yes maybe I should upgrade to a new SSD for the OS. Dreading having to reinstall everything though! I think that is the way forward. I'm sure the PC would appreciate a fresh OS install anyway!

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Maybe LM should adopt the way LR updates XPlane.

 

I feel the pain for all of you guys, having to go through all of these steps and requirements just to install a 155mb patch!!! What a waste of simming time.

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Dreading having to reinstall everything though!

 

You may not have to.  While I haven't done this myself, I've seen references to software (probably comes with the new SSD) that will do a migration of data from the old SSD for you.  I have no idea how this works, or even if it does.  I don't think I have any extra SATA plugs, for example.  I'm going to limp along on 33 gig free currently until I replace this computer.

 

Hook

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