Do we have windshield rain effect in P3D ?

it depends on the aircraft. The orbx vans has it for example

it depends on the aircraft. The orbx vans has it for example

 

And Ant's Sierra has this effect too 

 

Yes, on your PC. Certainly not mine. Your statement sounds to the casual reader, that DX10 is crap compared to Dx9, which is totally false. Just because you could not get it configured correctly, does not mean that is what it is like for all users who use the Dx10 fixer. That is just silly. Be the same if I said DX9 is far superior to P3D, when in fact, it was the way I configured P3D.

But as you said, on your old PC. So it was your old PC, not DX10, so how can DX10 be inferior to DX9 ?

 

I am not sure where my statement suggests that DX10 is "crap". All I am saying is that FSX in DX10 mode on my old PC (and when I say old, I mean i5 2500k/8GB DDR3-1600 RAM/1GB GeForce GTX 560Ti/Windows 7 64bit) did not look as good as it did in DX9 mode. That's a simple fact. I know how to configure FSX in DX10 mode, and I was using Steve's DX10 Fixer.

 

Maybe there was some kind of conflict with DX10 mode on my old PC? I don't know.

I can run FSX DX9 and get a better image quality than either FSX DX10 or P3D2.

 

The reason I believe is FSX DX9 has far more AA options available in Nvidia Inspector. The flip side is of course FSX DX9 doesn't run quite as smooth as FSX DX10 or P3D2.

 

Then again FSX DX10 with Steve's Fixer has the option of disabling AA on clouds, which helps the framerate tremendously in heavy cloud cover.

 

Both FSX DX10 and P3D2 shift a lot more of the load onto the GPU and free up more of the previous VAS than FSX DX9 so you get more head space before you hit an OOM.

 

 

Right now choosing between the three is six of one and half a dozen of the other.

 

 

Then again FSX DX10 with Steve's Fixer has the option of disabling AA on clouds, which helps the framerate tremendously in heavy cloud cover.

 

Its almost like we need this option in P3D, and all would be good.

I've finally got P3D and FSX DX10 running ok.

 

Had to enable tessellation in P3D to prevent CTD's but peformance is pretty good unless I load any ASN weather then the fps drops from 60fps to a micro-stuttering 15-20fps. FSX DX10 stays between 50-70fps even with heavy weather.

 

Did a 30min flight in both using the same aircraft, scenery and weather. Will try and post a comparison video later.

TrafficPilot, if ASN is dropping your 60 FPS to 15-20 FPS, your P3D or your ASN settings are perhaps a bit too high (I would suspect it is a combination of both). There's really no way that you can make direct comparisons between FSX and P3D flights, as there is no way to run the two sims on the same settings. (Even the P3D and FSX versions of ASN are different.)

 

There is one other thing you can try (it has worked for others):
1.) Launch P3D without ASN

2.) Set up a new default flight, selecting "Clear Skies (clears all weather)" for the weather.

3.) Now load this flight. If the skies are not actually totally clear, try changing the weather to clear again (you may have to load another theme and then change it to clear for this to finally work).

4.) Once you have actual clear skies in the sim, save this as your default flight, exit P3D.

5,) Now start ASN and then start P3D (the weather should now be ASN weather). Are your FPS any better now?

 

As I posted earlier in this thread, both P3D v.2.3 and the newest ASN Beta are much better optimized than their previous versions. With v.2.2, under much cloud cover, I had to back off some settings and disable cloud shadows; now with v.2.3 I just leave the settings alone and fly.

 

Sure, we're all hoping/expecting that future versions of P3D (and ASN) will be even better optimized, but I'm very impressed with how much better this version actually is at handling clouds, dawn and dusk, and overall lighting demands.

Hello;

I have FSX since 2 weeks, and I wasted time to buy and instal different products (FTx, ASN,......)and to tweak FSX about to fly with good conditions; I come from FS9 and I fly without problem with the best addons (UT, ASE, Ifly, Rex Overdrive, PMDG, ........). I don't find any way to fly correctly with FSX, I have trouble with texture, problem about DX10, many  different way about to tweak FSX.cfg with alien vocabulary: lod radius 4.5 or 6.5 or 7.5 or 12.5......; I do'nt no where is the right answer?

I bought many Aerosoft scene for my FS9, and I seen they are compatible with FSX, I downloaded and now I have some of them with no texture on vehicules around airport, other I could say yes it's good, but only the day, because the night, vehicule's texture disappear!

I found solution: Steve's DX10 Fixer, but no possible to buy now!

Many many many problems!!!!!

I have hesitation about to buy P3D because I have 3 years old computer (CPU i7 2600K; 3.40 Ghz; 8 Go ram and Geforce GTX550 Ti), but I see your screenshots, your viedos, and I bought some great addons for FSX (REX4, ASN, FTX North California with 3 regionals airports, vector, LC Europe, Global Mesh, ....)and I'm asking myself because P3D seems to be easy to configure and no problems with tweaks for NASA engineer!

 

 

There is one other thing you can try (it has worked for others):

 

 

Hi Arwen thanks yes saw this a little earlier on another thread will try it tonight and report back.

 

Cheers

 

Adam

That matches my experience. P3d is easily now the leader.

Matches mine as well, and I agree!

Arwen, I have been reluctant to purchase FS Pilot's FS Global 2010, since it is so large. I am worried that that dense data would seriously affect FPS. What is your experience?

 

Frans

 

 

The sim still loads one processor core very heavily, and the comments of Rob and Beau suggest this is deeply ingrained in the coding of the sim.  Even with improvements in dolling out tasks to other threads, the need for one main managing thread to synchronize everything is potentially troubling (IPC isn’t improving by leaps and bounds).  .....
 
But sgreen91 brings up some excellent points regarding the FLIGHT SIMULATION aspect of P3D.  I haven’t seen any talk of improving the sim in the following areas:
 
-Flight dynamics and ground physics modelling
-Updating cira-2006 airports and navigational aids
-An overhaul of the ATC system

 

LM have stated the will not tackle these and leave this door open for 3rd party development ... MJC Q400 is a good example of doing their own flight dynamics.

 

There will always be a synchronizing process regardless ... this isn't a restriction of the code, it's a logical design restriction and it's present in XPlane, FSX, P3D.  There is no way around this restriction at a "practical" level.  That doesn't mean some tuning to improve efficiency can't happen, it can, but the results aren't going to be drastic .. optimistically I would suggest maybe 60% across all cores with main core still at 90-100%.  The more threading that is done, the more synchronization that must happen ... so there are diminishing returns and that's why a 12 physical core system is no better than a 6 core physical system (clock for clock being the same).

 

Now that isn't to say more cores is bad ... these other cores can be dedicated to other 3rd party products like weather engines, recording systems, etc. etc.

 

And then we have SimConnect, which is used by MANY 3rd party add-on ... I don't know how well SimConnect is optimized but it would be a great candidate for running on it's own thread ... however, SimConnect requires synchronization also ... if there is one area LM might want to focus some optimization and performance tuning, it would SimConnect.  However, many 3rd party products still require FSX SP2 SimConnect client in order to work ... (built in managed one and ESP will not work).

 

So in summary, I think additional tuning can be done, but don't expect miracles with 100% CPU utilization across all cores ... if they can hit a sustained 60% that would be an amazing feat.

 

Cheers, Rob.

Arwen, I have been reluctant to purchase FS Pilot's FS Global 2010, since it is so large. I am worried that that dense data would seriously affect FPS. What is your experience?

 

Frans

 

Hey Frans,

 

When I installed the FS 2010 mesh into my P3D scenery, I didn't notice any change in performance. I never did any actual test, but I'm pretty sure that I would have noticed any significant drop in FPS, as most of my flights are in mountainous regions. This is a fairly expensive scenery add-on, so I was pretty hesitant about purchasing it . . . but the cost has been totally worth it for me, mainly because my home area is not yet available as part of an Orbx region, Now I can actually recognize the mountains that I'm familiar with in real life! [if you fly mostly in Orbx regions, you wouldn't gain as much in purchasing a mesh or vector add-on, since they don't add anything to the regions.]

 

Oh, just make sure that you purchase the  PILOT'S - FS Global 2010 FTX Compatible version, if you're planning on using it with Orbx's FTX Global.

I second Arwen's thought on FS Global. I have seen no issues with it in P3D.

 

Vic

Thanks, Arwen, that's what I needed to know. I hadn't noticed an FTX-compatible version on FS Pilot's web - maybe I will on the Flight Sim Store.

 

Frans