I did look at the screenshots. As a UI designer, I still fail to see what's so bad/ugly. There's colored buttons with icons and a name. The color matches the icon of the associated program/App. You click the button and a program/App opens. You can customize what programs/Apps are there and where you want them. Don't want an App? Remove it? Want to pin FSX? Great, pin it. You also don't ever have to use an App. I never do.

 

I guess I am fine with the little thing called change.

I love this, MS puts start button back in Windows 8?(even though you can have a nice custom one put in through 3rd party programs which is no different from getting a addon for FSX/P3D), I hate it. MS puts start button back in, I still hate it, its not the start menu. MS puts start menu back in, I still hate it because its cool to hate on anything that ain't windows 7/XP. Atleast Windows 8/8.1 is stable/has performance improvements[AKA no aero] and not a buggy mess that was Vista. If you guys wannna stay with 7 go ahead and stay with. But those who are more open minded towards change will move on ahead.

Honestly, I have not had any problems with Vista (I'm too young to really judge XP, I just used my parents' PC for eventual gaming), nor with Win 7. I even like Win 8 on my phone, but when I had to solve a few issues on my grandmother's Win 8 laptop I got the feeling that Win 8 was tailored towards touch screens (be it phones, tablets or laptops with touch screens) rather than "conventional" screens.

Nevertheless, I do kinda like its design (although the tiles need some time to get used to, I think), and if Win10 proves to be a stable OS, I will definitely upgrade to it. I like that appearance already.

 

 

Nevertheless, I do kinda like its design (although the tiles need some time to get used to, I think), and if Win10 proves to be a stable OS, I will definitely upgrade to it. I like that appearance already.

 

Go little children herd. All M$ wants is your money.

If you guys wannna stay with 7 go ahead and stay with. But those who are more open minded towards change will move on ahead.

 

Actually, that's kind of nonsense. Many "early adopters" who dutifully beta-tested and then who were at the front door of Compusa (or wherever) on launch day for release after release, including XP, ME, and even Vista and Windows7 (and eagerly took the changes in stride) took a look at windows 8 and saw nothing worth the switch.

 

It had nothing at all to do with "open minds" it had to do with a product that may have been great for Microsoft's strategic dreams of a single interface across all platforms, but failed to be sufficiently attractive to buyers who could care less about windows smartphones, and didn't feel like paying for the opportunity to learn a new (and to many people a very ugly) OS.

 

Many people who ignored win8 will look with appropriate interest at win10 if it comes with features that are, in their calculation, worth the switch. (but its still ugly as sin)

Windows 10?  Why not just go to 11?

But those who are more open minded towards change will move on ahead.

It has nothing to do with being open minded or not. It's just the necessity of the change.

 

Have you ever owned an iPhone? Ever notice how it becomes slower with each update? It doesn't mean I don't like the new update, but rather that I don't really need it because what I have at the moment works and I KNOW that the new update could cause issues.

 

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.™

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Go little children herd. All Microsoft wants is your money.

Perhaps a bad wording I used. Students of my university had the possibility to upgrade their OS for free because of some university program MS runs/has run. If this is still possible, I will upgrade. If not, I'm perfectly happy with Win7, but if I buy a new computer (and this may be necessary, as my current laptop I use for studying starts showing some signs of "senility") I am very open to the new OS as well.

I wouldn't go throwing money at MS simply because they release some fancy new OS!

Oh, and the term "App" should also be thrown on the bonfire. Someone write it on a bit of note paper, and then place it at the top of the pile. Symbolic at best, but oh so satisfying

You know, I think Microsoft's major issue was not the changes they made necessarily (although I don't care for a lot of them), but the speed at which they enacted those changes. I think Apple handled it's unification a lot better in that regard: they added a bunch of new features in Lion and made some controversial changes, which caused a fit, but mostly a minor one. There are still people today who swear by Snow Leopard, but that number is getting fewer, especially with the stability of Mountain Lion and Mavericks. In Mountain Lion and Mavericks, they made more tweaks and changes, again for some causing problems, but there was never a giant uproar over the whole thing like with Windows 8. What would have been better in my opinion, is to have taken the gradual approach: release a new system every year or so (perhaps for cheaper considering the upgrade cycle), with minor changes that gradually gravitate toward that mobile interface. Then probably people would have adjusted better.

 

But now that all is said and done, now Microsoft has to make up some lost ground. I'm vacillating on Windows 10: I like the Start menu etc., but I don't know if I could live with a square OS...I like my system to have curves.  :wink:

I love this, MS puts start button back in Windows 8?(even though you can have a nice custom one put in through 3rd party programs which is no different from getting a addon for FSX/P3D), I hate it. MS puts start button back in, I still hate it, its not the start menu. MS puts start menu back in, I still hate it because its cool to hate on anything that ain't windows 7/XP. Atleast Windows 8/8.1 is stable/has performance improvements[AKA no aero] and not a buggy mess that was Vista. If you guys wannna stay with 7 go ahead and stay with. But those who are more open minded towards change will move on ahead.

 

Exactly.

 

I don't "love" Microsoft or Windows, but the blind (and at times childish) hate of something that's really not that bad puzzles me.

 

"The start menu is different. It's made of square/rectangular icons. This sucks! It's completely unusable. I'll stick with 7." Sounds a bit ridiculous, doesn't it? I don't care if anyone likes or dislikes it, but to completely disregard it because you don't like squares (tip: they work just like the buttons that have been around since Windows 95!) makes no sense.

the windows 10 preview is now available to try out, i am saving an image of my whole pc and then gonna give it a try.

 

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview

Looking at the Win10 screenshots, it does appear that one can configure it to at least more closely resemble the Win7 desktop.

 

Personally I really prefer to use the small desktop icons rather that the larger tiles, given that I usually have far more program shortcuts than the tiles would allow.

 

I also prefer to keep both the upper and lower toolbars on screen at all times since I do a lot of multi-tasking. It simply makes switching focus faster and easier that way.

Windows 7 works.   Windows 7 has not failed me.  Windows 7 left the basic Calculator where it belongs under accessories.  It took me forever to figure out that the Calculator had become an 'app' that I'd have to access from their hideous touch screen interface... with my mouse.

 

My laptop came with Windows 8.   After playing around in it for an hour I felt like I was being punished by Microsoft for using their OS.   This... touch screen interface has no business on a desktop/laptop that has no touch screen capabilities.

 

Thankfully I have 4 copies of Win7 Pro 64-Bit in my house so I can continue to skip 8 and 9 and hope for a brighter future with 10.

 

Those screen caps of 9 shared at the start of this thread made my eyes bleed.  I think I need surgery now.

Exactly.

 

I don't "love" Microsoft or Windows, but the blind (and at times childish) hate of something that's really not that bad puzzles me.

 

"The start menu is different. It's made of square/rectangular icons. This sucks! It's completely unusable. I'll stick with 7." Sounds a bit ridiculous, doesn't it? I don't care if anyone likes or dislikes it, but to completely disregard it because you don't like squares (tip: they work just like the buttons that have been around since Windows 95!) makes no sense.

 

Its not ridiculous at all. We make such choices every day when purchasing various items. If it doesn't appeal, for whatever reason, its rejected, simple as that. If somebody offers me a tofu burger, my answer is "No thank you"

 

Its simply not attractive (to me). Similarly, If i have a car that's in great shape and serving me well, I'm not going to buy next years model if the only choice is in a hideous puke green.

 

No. I don't like the squares, or the colors, or the entire direction they were heading, which offered nothing I was interested in above what I already had, which was working just fine for my needs.

 

My decision was a pass.

Windows 7 works.   Windows 7 has not failed me.  Windows 7 left the basic Calculator where it belongs under accessories.  It took me forever to figure out that the Calculator had become an 'app' that I'd have to access from their hideous touch screen interface... with my mouse.

 

My laptop came with Windows 8.   After playing around in it for an hour I felt like I was being punished by Microsoft for using their OS.   This... touch screen interface has no business on a desktop/laptop that has no touch screen capabilities.

 

Thankfully I have 4 copies of Win7 Pro 64-Bit in my house so I can continue to skip 8 and 9 and hope for a brighter future with 10.

 

Those screen caps of 9 shared at the start of this thread made my eyes bleed.  I think I need surgery now.

 

Which was pretty much my reaction as well. I buy because its convenient for me, not to help MS in its strategic market re-positioning. When its my money, its all about me, the customer; not them.

 

When a company doesn't understand that, they fail.

 

It doesn't matter if Microsoft thinks windows 8 was the coolest thing ever. It's what the users/purchasers think that matters, and that history has already been written.

So FSX on WinX?  For me the problem with 8 was the win store apps.  They take over your screen.  After taking a look at the ones delivered with the OS, I didn't see any benefit for the hassle of having my screen commandeered.  Seems like in WinX they will allow win store apps to be windowed on the desktop, that might make it worth looking at apps for me anyway.

 

scott s.

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